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Another Royal Champ article
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruis...=64050869.blog
A little more info on the Royal Champions program. Scroll down into "comments" and you will see a couple of things.... 1) A comment by dave280 showing the letter Royal Caribbean recently sent to all RC members about the program. 2) A comment from Paul Motter that rec.travel.cruises is a "disaster" and how his CruiseMates forum is "one of the nicer ones". -- George Leppla http://www.CruiseMaster.com Cruise Specials Weblog http://cruisemaster.typepad.com/my_weblog/ May 10, 2009 ALASKA http://www.cruisemaster.com/moagc4.htm January 10, 2009 Southern Caribbean http://www.cruisemaster.com/caribprin.htm October 16, 2010 OASIS http://www.motherofallgroupcruises.com |
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Another Royal Champ article
On Mar 16, 10:59�am, "George Leppla" wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruis...log&ak=6405086.... A little more info on the Royal Champions program. Scroll down into "comments" and you will see a couple of things.... 1) �A comment by dave280 showing the letter Royal Caribbean recently sent to all RC members about the program. 2) A comment from Paul Motter that rec.travel.cruises is a "disaster" and how his CruiseMates forum is "one of the nicer ones". -- George Leppla � �http://www.CruiseMaster.com the whole thing about all this is ROYAL CARIBBEAN never ever asked anyone to BECOME a Royal Champion, nor to go on any ONLINE community and POST all POSITIVES about their company. None of us that are RC ers asked for it now applied for it. and I think it terrible that those who were not chosen have made a mockery out of all this.... Jelous I would say.... Susette www.Cruiseoutlets.com Join us on the Westerdam 12-6-09 |
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Another Royal Champ article
Susette wrote:
On Mar 16, 10:59�am, "George Leppla" wrote: http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruis...log&ak=6405086... A little more info on the Royal Champions program. Scroll down into "comments" and you will see a couple of things.... 1) �A comment by dave280 showing the letter Royal Caribbean recently sent to all RC members about the program. 2) A comment from Paul Motter that rec.travel.cruises is a "disaster" and how his CruiseMates forum is "one of the nicer ones". -- George Leppla � �http://www.CruiseMaster.com the whole thing about all this is ROYAL CARIBBEAN never ever asked anyone to BECOME a Royal Champion, nor to go on any ONLINE community and POST all POSITIVES about their company. None of us that are RC ers asked for it now applied for it. and I think it terrible that those who were not chosen have made a mockery out of all this.... Jelous I would say.... Susette www.Cruiseoutlets.com Join us on the Westerdam 12-6-09 Let me get this straight. Company Z noticed that a couple of satisfied customers regularly say good things about their products to anyone who would listen on the internet. Company Z contacts these folks and gives them free samples of new products along with the opportunity to act as a sort of focus group and give their opinions about these products to the company. These satisfied customers continue to say good things about company Z and tell people how great the new products are. This has been done with everything, from soda-pop to cereal. Open a box of something and out falls a coupon for that companies sister product. The company is hoping that if you bought and liked "A" that once you try "B" , you will like that also and if you tell a few friends about it, even better. Ever walk in a mall and while buying candy, cinnamon-roll or a cookie have the person offer you a free sample of something else. You are already a customer, because of all the options of things to buy in the mall, you chose their store. You buy what you came in for and maybe one of whats being sampled. You get back to the office and tell your office mates that company M at the mall is giving out really good samples of X and they'd better get down their if they want to get some at the sale price. Does eating the free sample and telling someone that it was good make you a shill? Does using the coupon and telling a friend about the product make you a shill? As long as people are not pressured to give good reports or not paid to give good reports " i.e. give us a good report on this product and we will give another free sample/ money /etc." I don't see what the problem is. After all, this is the anonymous internet, not consumer reports. I do believe that the advertising company was just being stupid. It sounds like they wanted to make it look like to their audience as if they had more power over the people giving opinions then they actually did. Almost like they were trying to sell viral marketing as something that they do well instead of explaining how it works on the internet vs. the store front. As any good business person will tell you, there is no better advertisement then a satisfied customer who likes to spread their opinions. While a quiet satisfied customer is good for repeat business, a loud satisfied customer will tell and refer everyone they know to you. If they send a referral or two your way, it would be rude not to send a thank you their way. Linnie |
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Another Royal Champ article
On 3/16/2009 4:25 PM, NomenNeisco wrote:
Let's look at this from the other side of the coin. You mean the one you and others are making up? The same company which has provided free cruises and other known and unknown perks to people who have regularly gushed positive about them in online groups has also banned a certain couple from going on any of their cruises, paid for or not, because they had the nerve to say not so nice things about the cruise line on the same forums. What gives a public company the right to arbitrarily ban someone from purchasing their product just because they say bad things about? Does this mean if I go out and buy a Ford and have issues with it that I make public, Ford can then deny me they option of ever buying another Ford again? If I don't like something I bought from WalMart and say so in a public forum, does WalMart have the right to deny me entrance into a WalMart store? WalMart's stores are private property so they have the right to turn away anyone they want. The only case I am aware of where Royal Caribbean refused to let a customer sail with them in the future was a woman who would routinely write a complaint letter after every cruise (for real and not so real complaints), for the apparent purpose of getting a credit. It seems to me that if someone is going to complain to the company every time they sail with them, they are clearly not happy with their product and would be better served sailing with another cruise line. I still believe that RCI did the wrong thing when it *hired* http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hired the people employed as Royal Champions. "to engage the services of (a person or persons) for wages or other payment" and it appears that it is coming back to bite them in the ass. The only thing that RC have gotten (despite your earlier claim of "unknown perks") is an invitation to sail on a cruise that everyone else who was on board also got for free. If you are claiming that they are hired, then so are the Diamond+ members, travel agents and other VIP's who were on board. If you're going to claim that those other people are not "paid" then you're contradicting yourself. This whole thing is getting really idiotic. Bill |
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Another Royal Champ article
In article , Bill
wrote: You mean the one you and others are making up? The "you" is using a remailer to hide his identity which is in many kill files. The cowardly kook will do and say anything and say any lie, to stir up a reply and get quoted so those who have him kill filed will see it. WalMart's stores are private property so they have the right to turn away anyone they want. The only case I am aware of where Royal Caribbean refused to let a customer sail with them in the future was a woman who would routinely write a complaint letter after every cruise (for real and not so real complaints), for the apparent purpose of getting a credit. It seems to me that if someone is going to complain to the company every time they sail with them, they are clearly not happy with their product and would be better served sailing with another cruise line. The woman in question used to post here often years ago making many claims and bewildering posts. She left for Cruise Critic where she created quite a stir for a while doing the same thing while abandoning one cruise line for another as they all tired of her antics. Last I heard she was cruising with NCL. Unfortunately for her cruise lines do read cruise forums and caught on to her purpose. The campaign against the Royal Champions was taken up by the same goofy blogger who first took up against Royal Caribbean for banning the self described "awesome one". -- Charles |
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Another Royal Champ article
Bill wrote: The only case I am aware of where Royal Caribbean refused to let a customer sail with them in the future was a woman who would routinely write a complaint letter after every cruise (for real and not so real complaints), for the apparent purpose of getting a credit. It seems to me that if someone is going to complain to the company every time they sail with them, they are clearly not happy with their product and would be better served sailing with another cruise line. Not only did she write letters to Royal Caribbean, she also posted her so called complaints on CruiseCritic again and again. Royal Caribbean may of been the only one to ban her, but she had previously used the same tactics with other cruise lines. sue |
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Another Royal Champ article
"George Leppla" wrote in message ... http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruis...=64050869.blog A little more info on the Royal Champions program. And here is another article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29685207/ I think it is a hoot. Royal Caribbean (RCL) probably has maybe 2 million passengers a year and they gave a freebie to between 50 and 75 people.... and from the way some people react, you would think that THIS IS THE END OF CIVILIZATION AS WE KNOW IT!!!!!! Meanwhile, back in the real world, Royal Caribbean has had to do less discounting to keep their ships full than any of their competitors. Insiders at Royal Caribbean are buying stock by the buckets and will probably end up laughing all the way to the bank. -- George Leppla http://www.CruiseMaster.com Cruise Specials Weblog http://cruisemaster.typepad.com/my_weblog/ May 10, 2009 ALASKA http://www.cruisemaster.com/moagc4.htm January 10, 2009 Southern Caribbean http://www.cruisemaster.com/caribprin.htm October 16, 2010 OASIS http://www.motherofallgroupcruises.com |
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Another Royal Champ article
George Leppla wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruis...=64050869.blog A little more info on the Royal Champions program. Scroll down into "comments" and you will see a couple of things.... 1) A comment by dave280 showing the letter Royal Caribbean recently sent to all RC members about the program. 2) A comment from Paul Motter that rec.travel.cruises is a "disaster" and how his CruiseMates forum is "one of the nicer ones". It sounds to me like some folk are shilling for their bulletin board/web sites more than complaining about RCCL. There's an obvious number of the self-righteous "sniffing" that takes place when some of the self-important posters to any board discover that they weren't some of the anointed people. The funniest part is that the two competing boards are trying to both advertise their own significance in the industry while trying to knock/sway the other. Again, I recall that dipstick from long ago who actually had a pretty darn good web site about cruising. However, he'd follot r.t.c closely and then post a, "To see the answer to this, visit xxxx.com for the answer." The xxx.com was never a direct link to the answer, but just his home page, as I recall. I've wondered why some TA hasn't contacted some private individual who posts to r.t.c., CC or some of the other boards, saying: Look, if you'll promote going on this cruise on such and such a date, I'll give you a cabin. -- Nonny If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! - P.J. O'Rourke |
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Another Royal Champ article
"Nonnymus" wrote in message
news If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! Healthcare is free or at very low cost (paid for out of taxes) throughout most of the civilised World. -- JohnT |
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