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Old May 12th, 2004, 05:04 AM
Jim
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My wife and I really crave a trip to SA in the next six months, but can't
decide whether to do it ourselves or book a tour. Our primary goal is see
big game (the "Top 5" and others) in the bush (and have a private bath at
night!). We have traveled independently in many parts of the world, but
usually take tours in "exotic" countries where there may be a serious
language barrier or unusual risks. One of our ideas is to fly into Cape
Town, rent a car and drive to one or two lodges in the so-called
malaria-free zones in the capes or the Garden Route area. (If possible, we'd
like to avoid the anti-malarial treatment.) Does this approach seem
practical? And given the higher altitudes of these particular lodges, which
months would be reasonably comfortable and still offer good viewing?


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Old May 12th, 2004, 08:29 AM
Marc Lurie
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If you prefer to be independant and do things your own way, the South
Africa is, by no means, an "exotic country" with "serious language
barriers or unusual risks".

The vast majority of people with whom you will come into contact in a
tourist context will speak good to excellent English.

Apart from driving on the left hand side of the road (I'm guessing
you're from the USA), driving in South Africa is very easy. All main
arterial roads are very good, and apart from some nutcases on the
roads, it's much like driving anywhere else in the first world.

As far as unusual dangers are concerned, the probability of getting
into any kind of danger while you are at a tourist destination or on
the main roads between them is extremely small.

So, if you're the kind of people who hate to do things at other
peoples pace, and are sick and tired of the
Fat-old-lady-from-Dayton-Ohio asking questions like "So who's the
president of Africa?" , then I'd recommend doing the trip
independantly.

Regards,

Marc - Johannesburg
On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:04:13 -0600, "Jim"
wrote:

My wife and I really crave a trip to SA in the next six months, but can't
decide whether to do it ourselves or book a tour. Our primary goal is see
big game (the "Top 5" and others) in the bush (and have a private bath at
night!). We have traveled independently in many parts of the world, but
usually take tours in "exotic" countries where there may be a serious
language barrier or unusual risks. One of our ideas is to fly into Cape
Town, rent a car and drive to one or two lodges in the so-called
malaria-free zones in the capes or the Garden Route area. (If possible, we'd
like to avoid the anti-malarial treatment.) Does this approach seem
practical? And given the higher altitudes of these particular lodges, which
months would be reasonably comfortable and still offer good viewing?


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Old May 12th, 2004, 10:58 AM
Afrika Safaris - Koos Greeff
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Hallo Jim,
You should have no problem doing a self-drive tour of SA. The best time to
visit the Cape Town and Garden Route area depends on what you want to do. If
plants and flowers is your thing, do it during September. If you like the
beach and outdoors, try March- April. Your suggested route is perfect for it
would allow you to do R62 which is the longest wine route in the world, the
Cango Caves and ostrich farms in Oudshoorn, the Garden Route itself and then
the Addo Elephant Park. There are plenty of other private lodges in the
Eastern Cape.
Hiring a car and stopping along the way is no problem. Most towns have info
centres with all the necessary info on guest houses, eateries, sites to see
etc. Just take your time, ask the locals for help and be cool - you will
have ball of a time.
Koos Greeff

AFRIKA SAFARIS
Specialist Safari Operator.
http://www.afrikasafaris.co.za
Tel/Fax: +27 (27) 2161 071


"Jim" wrote in message
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My wife and I really crave a trip to SA in the next six months, but can't
decide whether to do it ourselves or book a tour. Our primary goal is see
big game (the "Top 5" and others) in the bush (and have a private bath at
night!). We have traveled independently in many parts of the world, but
usually take tours in "exotic" countries where there may be a serious
language barrier or unusual risks. One of our ideas is to fly into Cape
Town, rent a car and drive to one or two lodges in the so-called
malaria-free zones in the capes or the Garden Route area. (If possible,

we'd
like to avoid the anti-malarial treatment.) Does this approach seem
practical? And given the higher altitudes of these particular lodges,

which
months would be reasonably comfortable and still offer good viewing?




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Old May 12th, 2004, 02:47 PM
Maurice ON4BAM
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:04:13 -0600, "Jim"
wrote:

My wife and I really crave a trip to SA in the next six months, but can't
decide whether to do it ourselves or book a tour. Our primary goal is see
big game (the "Top 5" and others) in the bush (and have a private bath at
night!). We have traveled independently in many parts of the world, but
usually take tours in "exotic" countries where there may be a serious
language barrier or unusual risks. One of our ideas is to fly into Cape
Town, rent a car and drive to one or two lodges in the so-called
malaria-free zones in the capes or the Garden Route area. (If possible, we'd
like to avoid the anti-malarial treatment.) Does this approach seem
practical? And given the higher altitudes of these particular lodges, which
months would be reasonably comfortable and still offer good viewing?


South Africa is a great country to visit independant. We don't like
the 'bushopping' way of travelling and prepared our trip at home and
'guestimated' times to see/do things and made a list of where we would
be at which dates and some preffered accomodation. Our travel agent
(who specialises in SA travel) then made a list of availlable
accomodations and after our approval booked all guesthouses and
hotels. He also booked our flight and renatl car (cheaper than what we
found :-) ).
From then on we where on our own... we enjoyed South Africa a lot and
hope to go back.. Next time we will not book accomodation in advance
though, as we found nothing was fully booked in July (except 'the
parks').
I have a travelogue of our trip(s) on my website (see sig).



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Old May 12th, 2004, 03:11 PM
Marc Lurie
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 13:47:12 +0000, Maurice ON4BAM
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Hi Maurice,

Disi you have a chance to get on 2m or HF while you were here?

'73 de ZS6HZ
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Old May 12th, 2004, 03:13 PM
Marc Lurie
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 13:47:12 +0000, Maurice ON4BAM
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Hi Maurice,

Did you get a chance to get onto 2m or HF while you were over here?

'73 de ZS6HZ
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Old May 12th, 2004, 04:09 PM
Maurice ON4BAM
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 16:11:56 +0200, Marc Lurie
wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2004 13:47:12 +0000, Maurice ON4BAM
wrote:

Hi Maurice,

Disi you have a chance to get on 2m or HF while you were here?

'73 de ZS6HZ


Yes!!
There's a picture of me in the rental car making QSO's from the Hill
Top lodges at Hluhluwe with a zebra 2 meter away from me ;-)
I did packet and APRS from Pretoria and Durban. Not a lot of activity
though on 2m :-( ... maybe next time (2m + echolink from the rental
car from VK4 to ON while on holiday is fun!!)


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Old May 12th, 2004, 06:16 PM
Dave Patterson
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Jim - you'll receive lots of reassurance that traveling
on your own in South Africa is safe and simple, and
that is absolutely true. But if you want the sort of
safari experiences you have envisioned, you can't
get those anywhere in the Western Cape or the
Garden Route. Safari operations there are OK,
but better described as 'family' experiences.

There are malaria-free safari lodges in the Waterberg,
northeast of Johannesburg/Pretoria that you might
consider. Many of these might be what you would
consider 3 and 4-star - but there are also a couple as
posh as those in the Lowveld (next to Kruger).
You can easily drive to this area from Jo'burg.

On the other hand, I wouldn't be too concerned
about the anti-malarial medications. And taking them
opens up all the other great safari areas.

The Garden Route contains no gardens that I have
seen, other than the flowers around the homes.
I have never figured out how they came up with that name.
It is a super touristic experience for people who like
bus tours, with stops at the ostrich farms and the
curio shops.. and there are a couple of lovely
scenic communities along the way. But, if your
travel interests have focused on exotic, more
unusual destinations, you would be disappointed
if you spend the time and effort on this.

I notice that you are considering this trip "in the
next 6 months".. be very clever in your timing, because
it will soon be winter in South Africa, with periods of
very cold weather in some areas - even snow in
Johannesburg! Cold on some days in the Cape, as well,
with guaranteed days of wind and rain. September
can be a good compromise (from the US) because
air fares are then low season, and safari lodge rates
in South Africa, in many places, are also still low
season. With the US dollar so weak against the
South African rand, these are points you should
consider, unless cost is no object. The country is
a fantastic travel experience, but costs there are
equivalent in most respects to what you would pay
for the same experiences in the US.



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Old May 12th, 2004, 06:20 PM
Maurice ON4BAM
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 13:47:12 +0000, Maurice ON4BAM
wrote:


I have a travelogue of our trip(s) on my website (see sig).


I just noticed the sig was not attached :-( it is now... :-)



Bye Maurice
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Old May 12th, 2004, 07:22 PM
Jim
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Default First-time vistor to SA: independent or package tour?

Thanks for this helpful response, Dave. I'm somewhat confused, however,
about the kind of safari experience we might get (or not) at a Western Cape
lodge, as compared with one in the Waterberg. Several of the cape area
reserves indicate they have drives to view the big 5 and other game. As to
timing, would a June trip make sense, or is September our best bet in the
next six months?

"Dave Patterson" wrote in message
...
Jim - you'll receive lots of reassurance that traveling
on your own in South Africa is safe and simple, and
that is absolutely true. But if you want the sort of
safari experiences you have envisioned, you can't
get those anywhere in the Western Cape or the
Garden Route. Safari operations there are OK,
but better described as 'family' experiences.

There are malaria-free safari lodges in the Waterberg,
northeast of Johannesburg/Pretoria that you might
consider. Many of these might be what you would
consider 3 and 4-star - but there are also a couple as
posh as those in the Lowveld (next to Kruger).
You can easily drive to this area from Jo'burg.

On the other hand, I wouldn't be too concerned
about the anti-malarial medications. And taking them
opens up all the other great safari areas.

The Garden Route contains no gardens that I have
seen, other than the flowers around the homes.
I have never figured out how they came up with that name.
It is a super touristic experience for people who like
bus tours, with stops at the ostrich farms and the
curio shops.. and there are a couple of lovely
scenic communities along the way. But, if your
travel interests have focused on exotic, more
unusual destinations, you would be disappointed
if you spend the time and effort on this.

I notice that you are considering this trip "in the
next 6 months".. be very clever in your timing, because
it will soon be winter in South Africa, with periods of
very cold weather in some areas - even snow in
Johannesburg! Cold on some days in the Cape, as well,
with guaranteed days of wind and rain. September
can be a good compromise (from the US) because
air fares are then low season, and safari lodge rates
in South Africa, in many places, are also still low
season. With the US dollar so weak against the
South African rand, these are points you should
consider, unless cost is no object. The country is
a fantastic travel experience, but costs there are
equivalent in most respects to what you would pay
for the same experiences in the US.





 




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