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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
Not the Karl Orff wrote: In article , "Peter L" wrote: See that the OP is talking about international travel, we are probably talking passport as an ID. I wonder how the OP is planning to use his passport to go from Greece to Italy and yet have another passport for his friend to use to get the boarding pass. both are Schengen treaty countries IIRC. No need for immigration procedures But, they will probably notice that he is not on the plane. |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
Not the Karl Orff wrote:
"Peter L" wrote: Sorry don't work. You can't get a boarding pass without actually being there in person. Just the id won't work. And even if your friend does get your boarding pass, you'll actually have to board, otherwise the airline will show one person not boarding. You can with certain airlines* (use automated or web checkin) but probably not on the OP's airline of choice. Depends on the airline and airport too. In Greece, I would not be surprised if they collected the boarding pass stubs and had them typed into the computer by hand several days later. Actually I would not be surprised if they just threw them away. Actually I am surprised every time the plane successfully takes off from ATH (that said, I like it there). miguel -- Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu Site remodeled 10-Sept-2003: Hundreds of new photos, easier navigation. |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
Well if he's talking about BA then it is immediate because the RES system
(called "RTZ") is linked to the Departure Control System (DCS). The auto-cancellation occurs (I belive) as soon as the flight is finalised. "Not the Karl Orff" wrote in message ... In article , "Peter L" wrote: Sorry don't work. You can't get a boarding pass without actually being there in person. Just the id won't work. And even if your friend does get your boarding pass, you'll actually have to board, otherwise the airline will show one person not boarding. You can with certain airlines* (use automated or web checkin) but probably not on the OP's airline of choice. Anyway, how long after not boarding but having checked in would the airline cancel subsequent flight segments? I don't believe it's all that fast or immediate. * At least Alaska/Horizon, Continental, Northwest, Southwest. Probably American. |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
In article ,
"Jamess" wrote: Well if he's talking about BA then it is immediate because the RES system (called "RTZ") is linked to the Departure Control System (DCS). The auto-cancellation occurs (I belive) as soon as the flight is finalised. Thanks for that tip. I guess any airline that uses a computer system to track boarding records would be able to do that but I didn;t see tha the OP was flying to the U.k. on this way between Greece and italy. I guess AS/QX, QF, AA and NW woulc cancel immediately too as they use cmputerised pax borading tracking. |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
And when they did their head count on the plane there would be a missing
passenger. Derek. "Mark Hewitt" wrote in message ... "Usuario Invitado" wrote in message ... Please, help me in that question: If in the return trip I do not use the ticket from Athens to Milan, because I arrive to Milan by another mean, does the airline automatically cancel my ticket Milan-Madrid? Yes.. Unless (theres always an unless) you are flying with a low cost carrier or your Milan-Madrid ticket is booked entirely seperately from your Athens-Milan ticket This is what my travel agent claims, since according to the company, if I miss the first flight, I cannot take the second connection. It's called hidden city ticketing I believe. Not permitted. If that's right, I imagine following trick: A friend, who will fly the same schedule Athens-Milan-Madrid, would make the check-in in Athens for me and for himself (I would give him an ID), and get my boarding passes for the two flights. How would he make the checkin for you and himself? The checking agent will want to see you in person, not just your ID! Then I would not take the first flight in Athens (obviously I would be already in Milan).We would meet in Milan and my friend would give me the boarding card for the flight Milan-Madrid He wouldn't be able to obtain the boarding card, you have to be there in person, with your ID. and I would take the plane. Would in this instance the airline cancel my second boarding card, because I did not use the first one? Yes. But anyway, you wouldn't be able to get a boarding card. Well, I would appreciate any enlightenment on that subject. My advice would be to book your segments seperately. Book Madrid-Milan return on one ticket, then book Athens-Milan on another ticket, and if necessary don't use the return portion of that. You will not be able to have your baggage checked through or get boarding passes at your origin so make sure you leave enough time for your connection. |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:02:12 GMT, Not the Karl Orff
wrote: In article , "Peter L" wrote: Sorry don't work. You can't get a boarding pass without actually being there in person. Just the id won't work. And even if your friend does get your boarding pass, you'll actually have to board, otherwise the airline will show one person not boarding. You can with certain airlines* (use automated or web checkin) but probably not on the OP's airline of choice. You can't, even with those airlines, on international travel. Which, last time I checked, makes this point kinda irrelevant... Madrid, Milan and Athens not being in the same country and all... Anyway, how long after not boarding but having checked in would the airline cancel subsequent flight segments? I don't believe it's all that fast or immediate. * At least Alaska/Horizon, Continental, Northwest, Southwest. Probably American. Yes on AA (for US domestic only), ditto UA. Malc. |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:02:50 +0300, Binyamin Dissen
wrote: [ Snip ] no, I do not have an ethical problem with using just part of a purchased service. What Mr. Dissen meant to write is: "I do not have an ethical problem with lying to obtain preferential pricing when purchasing a service". Malc. |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:10:59 -0700 Malcolm Weir wrote:
:On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:02:50 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: : no, I do not have an ethical problem with :using just part of a purchased service. :What Mr. Dissen meant to write is: :"I do not have an ethical problem with lying to obtain preferential :pricing when purchasing a service". No, Mr. Dissen meant what he wrote: "I do not have an ethical problem with using just part of a purchased service." Exactly where is the lying that you assert? What promises do you typically make during a ticket purchase? -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
Binyamin Dissen wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:10:59 -0700 Malcolm Weir wrote: :On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:02:50 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: : no, I do not have an ethical problem with :using just part of a purchased service. :What Mr. Dissen meant to write is: :"I do not have an ethical problem with lying to obtain preferential :pricing when purchasing a service". No, Mr. Dissen meant what he wrote: "I do not have an ethical problem with using just part of a purchased service." Exactly where is the lying that you assert? What promises do you typically make during a ticket purchase? You and the airline agree to the rules regarding the tariff you bought the ticket under. These rules state that you fly the segments in the order they are booked and that you fly all segments. |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:08:57 GMT mrtravel wrote:
:Binyamin Dissen wrote: : On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:10:59 -0700 Malcolm Weir wrote: : :On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:02:50 +0300, Binyamin Dissen : wrote: : : no, I do not have an ethical problem with : :using just part of a purchased service. : :What Mr. Dissen meant to write is: : :"I do not have an ethical problem with lying to obtain preferential : :pricing when purchasing a service". : No, Mr. Dissen meant what he wrote: "I do not have an ethical problem with : using just part of a purchased service." : Exactly where is the lying that you assert? : What promises do you typically make during a ticket purchase? :You and the airline agree to the rules regarding the tariff you bought :the ticket under. These rules state that you fly the segments in the :order they are booked and that you fly all segments. I make no such promise. Perhaps you do? Sometimes I toss the tickets. -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com |
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