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Mike..... wrote:

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St Pancras for instance.

Yes, indeed- nice to see it renovated too. Others of note in the UK for
me include Liverpool Lime Street, York, Manchester Piccadilly (very good
facelift IMO), London Paddington and Bristol Temple Meads. (Most London
stations are interesting to me- the disgusting Euston notwithstanding.)

the Euston vandalism and crap design are a disgrace as is the frontage
stuck on Kings X,

Yes, though the platforms and main roof are good.

I seem to remeber York was good,

Wonderful curving platforms and roofing.

cant remeber anything
nice about Paddington except the bear.

Can't go wrong with Brunel. It's been modernised a bit, but the inside
is still impressive I think.

For foreign stations, many come to mind too. Particularly fond of some
in the US- Philadelphia's 30th Street, Washington's Union Station, and
of course, NYC's Grand Central. Like several of the Parisian termini,
Madrid's Atocha, Lisbon's very modern Oriente, Budapest's Keleti. and so
on.

ive only been to the gare du nord!

The council etc. are really sleeping in letting Manchester's Victoria
fall into ruin. (It's not ruined yet, but it will be without
improvements.) It's quite a gem, even if marred by having a concert
arena practically built on top of it. Just up the road from me,
Manchester Central (now a convention centre) always impresses.

does the council have control?

The short answer is yes, though as always, it's more complicated than
that, especially with the fragmentation of the railways etc.

My least favourite UK main station is Birmingham's New Street. Probably
no surprise there- though it's pretty good for 'faciities' being below a
major shopping centre.

havent even been to Birmingham, its the worst place on the motorway system
(or was before refeif road).

Ironically, as a pedestrian, Birmingham seems almost destroyed by roads,
which smash through the centre or the city. This was seen as progress at
the time. New Street station is going to be renovated, which will
probably be extremely disruptive. (Manchester Piccadilly was a mess
during the work done, though I think it's been worth it.)

Best road in UK: Hardnott Pass, Cumbria

Some of the worst (in terms of accidents) are in very pretty parts of
the country- the nearby Buxton-Macclesfield road for example, and a few
in Scotland IIRC.

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On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:34:50 +0100, Mike..... wrote:

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The ten you like the most...

Ask a silly question...

I'm waiting for Davids list

1-3 : The window seat of an ICE train.
4-8 : The window seat of an InterRegio train.
9-10: The window seat of an Inter-City train.

I think I'd put the InterRegio first. ICE trains have this tendency to
go underground just when you'd like to see the landscape.

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Mike..... wrote:

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(Im still trying
to work out how you do remote manslaughter).

Remote?

even Fayed doesnt claim phil the greek was actually in the car. If he wasnt
there he would have to have told someone to do it, thats premeditation.

I think Fayed's bizarre claims alleged murder. He really should just be
shot and ****ed on.

Wrong sequence. . .

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Can't go wrong with Brunel. It's been modernised a bit, but the inside
is still impressive I think.

Jeremy clarkeson is a great fan of him

havent even been to Birmingham, its the worst place on the motorway system
(or was before refeif road).

Ironically, as a pedestrian, Birmingham seems almost destroyed by roads,
which smash through the centre or the city. This was seen as progress at
the time.

there was a lot of that at one time, sadly. They should have bulit the M6
where the relief road is now and with only one exit for Brum.

Best road in UK: Hardnott Pass, Cumbria

Some of the worst (in terms of accidents) are in very pretty parts of
the country-

yeah OK trains are safer shrug

the nearby Buxton-Macclesfield road for example, and a few
in Scotland IIRC.

that's a *main* road you're talking about. Obviously heavily used non dual
roads have more accidents than duals and motorways. I'm talking about the
sort of road drivers like. Its possible to have an accident on it but its
unlikely to involve another vehicle and will therefore serve you right if
you do.
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Mike..... wrote:

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Can't go wrong with Brunel. It's been modernised a bit, but the inside
is still impressive I think.

Jeremy clarkeson is a great fan of him

Everyone can't be imperfect.

havent even been to Birmingham, its the worst place on the motorway system
(or was before refeif road).

Ironically, as a pedestrian, Birmingham seems almost destroyed by roads,
which smash through the centre or the city. This was seen as progress at
the time.

there was a lot of that at one time, sadly. They should have bulit the M6
where the relief road is now and with only one exit for Brum.

Best road in UK: Hardnott Pass, Cumbria

Some of the worst (in terms of accidents) are in very pretty parts of
the country-

yeah OK trains are safer shrug

I wasn't making that comparison.

the nearby Buxton-Macclesfield road for example, and a few
in Scotland IIRC.

that's a *main* road you're talking about.

I know.

I'm talking about the
sort of road drivers like.

I know. I was simply observing that some of the most dangerous roads are
in pretty areas. You don't need to fight over everything.

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You don't need to fight over everything.

ditto :-)
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On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 08:13:06 +0100, "Mike....."
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(Im still trying
to work out how you do remote manslaughter).

Remote?

even Fayed doesnt claim phil the greek was actually in the car. If he wasnt
there he would have to have told someone to do it, thats premeditation.

Which would make it murder, not manslaughter.

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On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 08:13:06 +0100, "Mike....."
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Following up to vid Horne, _the_ chancellor

(Im still trying
to work out how you do remote manslaughter).

Remote?

even Fayed doesnt claim phil the greek was actually in the car. If he
wasnt
there he would have to have told someone to do it, thats premeditation.

Which would make it murder, not manslaughter.



But if he had discussed it in advance with his wife, or if she had
encouraged him to do so, that would be a totally different situation. Our
Sovereign isn't above the Law; she IS the Law. My solution to this - and I
am definitely not a fan of Phil - would be to deport the odious Fayed. He
has applied for British citizenship on at least 3 occasions and has been
rejected every time. And it isn't as if H A Rrods is a shop worth
patronising since they lost the Duke of Edinburgh's Royal Warrant.
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On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 08:19:09 +0100, Mike..... wrote:

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even Fayed doesnt claim phil the greek was actually in the car. If he wasnt
there he would have to have told someone to do it, thats premeditation.

I think Fayed's bizarre claims alleged murder.

the *thread* in question clams the jury

*snort*
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even Fayed doesnt claim phil the greek was actually in the car. If he wasnt
there he would have to have told someone to do it, thats premeditation.

Which would make it murder, not manslaughter.

exactly, thats the point.
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