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On 1/2/2011 1:14 PM, Carol Eskra wrote:
Jean, Your response was great, but Ohio guy does not have a credit card. I wonder if he realizes he will have to put up a large cash deposit, unless he doesn't plan to have a drink, buy photos etc. Maybe he's planning to pay the deposit in dollar coins as well??? Bill |
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What an interesting world we live
in...all sorts of personalities! Ah, finally someone else recognizes that conformity is sometimes boring. |
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They've set up a program that
works... and everyone on the ship is comfortable with. Why deviate? Because you feel like? That's not a good answer. If I'm on the ship, and I'm not comfortable with it, then 'everyone' on the ship is NOT comfortable with it. Why deviate? Because I typically think things through on my own, and decide to do what makes me feel the most comfortable. The customer is always right - I firmly believe that, and if I'm paying, then I'm the customer. I like using cash to tip. I believe that if I give cash directly to the server, there is a much greater chance that they will actually get the money they deserve. If it automatically goes to the restaurant, I always wonder if the server gets 100% like they should. Plus, if a tip is automatic, there simply is not as much incentive for excellent service. Also, I pay for meals and such with cash 100% of the time, so it just makes sense for me to do the same with tips. It would be rather silly to pay for the meal with cash, then whip out a credit card for just the tip. Why do I pay cash for everything I buy in person? Because when I pay with virtual dollars (c.c.) I tend to pay more. Thus, in order to stick with our stringent budget, I pay cash. And guess what? Paying cash and sticking to our budget is what allowed us to save up and take this cruise in the first place. In a way, the whole cruise, for us at least, is a monument to fiscal responsibility, and paying with cash. And now you know .... the rest of the story. Good Day! |
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On 1/3/11 9:51 PM, Ohioguy wrote:
I like using cash to tip. I believe that if I give cash directly to the server, there is a much greater chance that they will actually get the money they deserve. If it automatically goes to the restaurant, I always wonder if the server gets 100% like they should. But you're not in a restaurant. You're on a ship. And even if you hand them money directly, they don't get to keep it, it goes into a pool that gets split up among all the waiters. The only way that wouldn't happen is if you auto tipped, and then gave them a little more on the side with cash. Plus, if a tip is automatic, there simply is not as much incentive for excellent service. Yes there is. It's called keeping their jobs. They will be serving you all week anyway, before any tips are even given out. And... as strange as this might sound. If you auto tip, they will know it ahead of time, so they know you won't be stiffing them. If you opt out of auto tipping, they may have a concern you will stiff them at the end, after giving good service to you all week. |
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"Tom K" wrote in message ... On 1/3/11 9:51 PM, Ohioguy wrote: I like using cash to tip. I believe that if I give cash directly to the server, there is a much greater chance that they will actually get the money they deserve. If it automatically goes to the restaurant, I always wonder if the server gets 100% like they should. But you're not in a restaurant. You're on a ship. And even if you hand them money directly, they don't get to keep it, it goes into a pool that gets split up among all the waiters. The only way that wouldn't happen is if you auto tipped, and then gave them a little more on the side with cash. Plus, if a tip is automatic, there simply is not as much incentive for excellent service. Yes there is. It's called keeping their jobs. They will be serving you all week anyway, before any tips are even given out. And... as strange as this might sound. If you auto tip, they will know it ahead of time, so they know you won't be stiffing them. If you opt out of auto tipping, they may have a concern you will stiff them at the end, after giving good service to you all week. Ohioguy, This is true, not only do they know, the maitre d' and the waiters know...They see it on their computers. The maitre d' once verified that to me, telling me that they had computer access to that information right at the doorway to the dining room. The evening before your last day, the cabin stewards place on your bed, your new colored luggage tags indicating the time you will be disembarking, tip envelopes for the waiter, asst.waiter, cabin steward, head waiter (sometimes) and head housekeeper (sometimes) depending on the cruise line, along with a note to put in each envelope telling them thank you and that you have put their tips on your account...so, there is no way to get around it...they know right from the beginning whether you automatically put the tips on your account, so when they don't see your name there, don't think that they will give you better service. We always ask for an extra envelope as we tip the cabin steward's assistant...he/she have the tough jobs...the scrubbing down of the bathrooms! If no credit card is available, at least cash in those bulky coins at your bank and get traveler's checks that you can put down on your account and save the rest for cashing them as you need them at the pursers' desk! You'd still be dealing in "cash" which you seem to want so badly. You just don't treat your dining room staff the same as you would when dining in a restaurant on land. There is a certain procedure to be followed when onboard a ship and it will make you look very naive and foolish to behave otherwise. I should think that since so many experienced cruisers have advised you against this and nobody has said that what you were planning to do is wise, should tell you something. --Jean |
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"Ohioguy" wrote in message ... What an interesting world we live in...all sorts of personalities! Ah, finally someone else recognizes that conformity is sometimes boring. Who also realizes that inconformity is sometimes unwise and can prove embarrassing. Jean |
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 00:43:49 -0600, Jean O'Boyle wrote:
"Ohioguy" wrote in message ... What an interesting world we live in...all sorts of personalities! Ah, finally someone else recognizes that conformity is sometimes boring. Who also realizes that inconformity is sometimes unwise and can prove embarrassing. Jean Inconformity? *LOL* It's 2AM, get to bed, Queenie. Your either drunk, drugged or senile..or all. -- Ari Silverstein, C.T.A; C.T.A.S, FREE Cruise Travel Advisory Services I never have nor ever will solicit or accept a booking. http://www.cruisecompare.co.uk/ USA site due 1Q 2011. |
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On 1/4/2011 1:39 AM, Jean O'Boyle wrote: If no credit card is available, at least cash in those bulky coins at your bank and get traveler's checks that you can put down on your account and save the rest for cashing them as you need them at the pursers' desk! You'd still be dealing in "cash" which you seem to want so badly. If you don't want to get traveler's checks you can just take cash(not coins). Your cabin will have a small safe you can use for cash or travelers checks and anything else important. sue |
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Ohioguy wrote:
If I'm on the ship, and I'm not comfortable with it, then 'everyone' on the ship is NOT comfortable with it. Why deviate? Because I typically think things through on my own, and decide to do what makes me feel the most comfortable. The customer is always right - I firmly believe that, and if I'm paying, then I'm the customer. So you're also a thoughtless little man who needs to feel "different" to imagine your own import, when in fact all you're doing is inconveniencing the crew whom you bestow those annoying coins on. I like using cash to tip. I believe that if I give cash directly to the server, there is a much greater chance that they will actually get the money they deserve. If it automatically goes to the restaurant, I always wonder if the server gets 100% like they should. Plus, if a tip is automatic, there simply is not as much incentive for excellent service. Also, I pay for meals and such with cash 100% of the time, so it just makes sense for me to do the same with tips. It would be rather silly to pay for the meal with cash, then whip out a credit card for just the tip. Why do I pay cash for everything I buy in person? Because when I pay with virtual dollars (c.c.) I tend to pay more. Thus, in order to stick with our stringent budget, I pay cash. So your lack of self control is reason to inconvenience others? Whataschmuck. |
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On 1/4/2011 8:59 AM, John Sisker wrote:
Since the subject of travelers checks came up, that alone prompted me to comment on this subject as well. We used to carry travelers checks everywhere we went, but no longer. Simply put, we discovered that fewer and fewer business and people will accept them. It became more of a hassle than a convenience. On our last trip, once we returned home, case cashed all our travelers check back into our bank, and put the money in our saving account. During our 21 days of American and foreign travel, not one travelers check was used. Yet, this does not necessarily answer the tipping question that was brought up in these threads. For that, we simply rely on the amount that most cruise lines automatically add to our credit card as pre-paid gratuities. It is pretty close to what we would have tipped anyway, plus is a lot more convenient for us. Besides, we always have the option of adjusting this amount either up or down as we see fit, or even leaving a few extra bucks (in USD) in an envelope if we felt someone deserves a bit more. Most of the time, since travelers checks are now out for us, we put our bigger purchase items ashore on a credit card. For small tips, for shore excursion hosts for example, we do carry mostly ones, fives and a few tens, again in U.S. Dollars, just for this purpose. This worked out we for us, and even all through Northern Europe and the Baltic's, no one complained about small amounts of money outside their countries currency. Apparently, the locals have no problem converting this to their currency. As mentioned, this works out well for us, which may or may not work for you. Besides, it is just a suggestion. John Sisker Ship-To-Shore Cruise Agency® http://www.shiptoshorecruise.com John ... you are right in that travelers checks are a thing of the past. The paper dollar is one of the most widely traded and accepted currency in the world. All this doesn't really matter in the thread though. The guy is on his first cruise and is just trying to get out of paying the full tip suggestion before he even see's if it is justified. Remember how he started this thread ... how to write off the cost because he might be working on board. As for the coins, he is showing his disregard for other cultures and other countries. He apparently thinks that giving a shiny gold plated coin is going to make the little brown people go oooh and ahh like children. PFFFT!! He apparently came here just to argue with people that have cruised ... not to learn anything. -- Ray +++++++++++++++++++++++ www.CompressorStuff.com |
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