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[Default] Thus spake Becca :
Brian K wrote: On 11/22/2008 4:43 PM Becca did a "happy dance", then made these writings: This article was posted on March 25, 2008. http://maritimeaccident.wordpress.co...oes-lrad-work/ In theory, the LRAD sends out a concentrated beam of ear-popping sound painful enough to burst eardrums and deter attackers. A popular version is sold by American Technology Corporation. So far, there has been only one reported successful use of this device, when the cruise ship /Seabourn Spirit/ was attacked by pirates off the coast of Somalia. However, a close reading of reports of the event must necessarily raise the question of whether it was the spirited defence of the ship by its security officer Michael Grave and his colleage Som Bahadur Gurung, which included high pressure hose and aggressive maneuvers by the master. Michael Graves suffered permanent hearing damage. Grave and Gurung deservedly were awarded the Queens Gallantry Medal and Commendation for Bravery. Gee Becca, Maybe they can use the LRAD to zap kidney stones, or to treat Peyronie's Disease by zapping the affected area. ;-) We have a skunk living under our house, so I wish I had the LRAD here in Louisiana. It could get rid of the skunk, blast his kidney stones and zapp his Peyronie's, if it's a boy. I have not got close enough to look. ;-) Becca A while back, Mythbusters did an episode on the best way to destiink after getting skunked. They tried three different skunks (all caged) and did things like poke it in the backside, with no results. They finally had to buy some "essence of skunk". Only after they used it did they read the instruction "mix bottle with one quart of water". -- - dillon I am not invalid When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor. |
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Dillon Pyron wrote:
A while back, Mythbusters did an episode on the best way to destiink after getting skunked. They tried three different skunks (all caged) and did things like poke it in the backside, with no results. They finally had to buy some "essence of skunk". Only after they used it did they read the instruction "mix bottle with one quart of water". -- Back as a kid in MO, I remember one summer evening when Mom and Dad returned in the pickup from taking a load of brush out to the city dump. On the way home, they ran over a skunk, flipping it up under the truck. The skunk didn't "stick" up under the truck, but it sure had ample opportunity to liberally douse the underside with scent. Dad parked in the driveway and I was ordered to take a hose and wash off the underside. Before doing that, Mom had me run to the celler and bring up a couple quarts of stewed tomatoes she'd canned and they crushed them in an old laundry tub out by the garage. The actual spray was confined to under the truck, but Mom and Dad had enough of the scent on them that you'd have thought they'd been sprayed directly. My (otherwise quite dignified) parents then stripped in the garage and washed down with the tomato juice, then washing their clothing in the juice. I brought them towels and after drying off, they added the towels to the tomato juice. They then used an old tarp to cover themselves as they walked across the back yard to the house and a good shower. Being myself, I was sorely, very sorely, tempted to lock the house, remove the tub of tomato saturated clothing and drive away in the pickup, but a tiny sense of loyalty overcame that. (Actually, it was the certainty of what would have happened to me when/if my parents had ever found me). Somehow, the though of leaving my parents nude in the garage, no clothing around, no keys to the house and the house locked still makes me chuckle. It also helps to explain my own kids to the good folk who've met them on cruises. Grin I was only 12 or so at the time, and when washing the truck off with the garden hose didn't work in the least, I simply drove it to a new-fangled thing in town called a wand-type carwash, where a couple quarters got lots of hot soapy water. If I recall correctly, the smell finally dissipated in a week or so, though the clothing was eventually discarded, along with the towels they'd use. Nonnymus- Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. -Mark Twain |
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[Default] Thus spake "G&V" Bushwick at comcast dot net:
"Ray Goldenberg" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:42:36 -0500, "G&V" Bushwick at comcast dot net wrote: With the rash of rash of pirate and terrorist stories, the cruise lines must have contingency plans to repel attacks. In all the cruises we have taken on many lines, we have never seen any weapons displayed. Does anyone know what contingency plans cruise lines have to deal with attacks. Hi, The cruise lines do have elaborate plans for protection that include special weapons from pirates. Due to security reasons, they do not publish them for public consumption on the internet. A Seabourn ship was attacked a few years ago and repelled the attackers with one of these weapons. You might want to Google long range acoustic device (LRAD) for more insight. -------------------------------------------------- The cruise lines do have elaborate plans for protection that include special weapons from pirates. Due to security reasons, they do not publish them for public consumption on the internet. A Seabourn ship was attacked a few years ago and repelled the attackers with one of these weapons. You might want to Google long range acoustic device (LRAD) for more insight. I am not talking about that lame stuff. When you are being attacked with RPG's you need real weapons to repel. What you are talking about is no secret, it was widely disseminated in the news. That lame acoustic thing is probably not the reason the attack was broken off. Um, they were developed for the DoD. Which seems to like them. The sound pressure levels and the frequencies are specifically designed to cause incredible pain. I've seen video of them in use. People 100 meters away dropped in pain, unable to even run. The unfortunate side effect was that three of the test subjects were later found to have sinus bleeds. Bad for tests but kind of appealing for real world applications. What was more likely the attack was broken off for other reasons by the pirates. I find it hard to believe that the cruise line would put their billion dollar investment on the line with ONLY such a lame device. You keep saying lame. Have you done any research into them. But I agree, that's probably not the only line of defense. At some point you have to put rounds into bodies. Small arms fire just can close the distance. My question is what large caliber weapons does the ship carry. Why do you need large caliber? I can easily fire a .308 500 meters, and I'm hardly a marksman. And just getting shot at deters most of these pirates. G&V -- - dillon I am not invalid When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor. |
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[Default] Thus spake Kurt Ullman :
In article , Ray Goldenberg wrote: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:37:11 -0500, "G&V" Bushwick at comcast dot net wrote: I am not talking about that lame stuff. When you are being attacked with RPG's you need real weapons to repel. What you are talking about is no secret, it was widely disseminated in the news. That lame acoustic thing is probably not the reason the attack was broken off. What was more likely the attack was broken off for other reasons by the pirates. I find it hard to believe that the cruise line would put their billion dollar investment on the line with ONLY such a lame device. At some point you have to put rounds into bodies. Small arms fire just can close the distance. My question is what large caliber weapons does the ship carry. Hi G&V, As I stated earlier, the cruise lines have a number of ways to repel pirates and protect their investment. They are not going to publish this information on the Internet to satisfy your curiosity. The so called "lame" defense did work. How do you argue with the facts in the Seabourn attempt? Adn assuming the security types on the Seabourn work like every other security type I know, there are various grades of response from try to outrun 'em to pull out the nukes. So we really can't say that the lame maneuver is only thing in their arsenal, only the first. The rules for carry: Avoid the incident. Walk away from the attemped assailant. Run away from the attempted assailant. Co-operate with non-violent demands. Shoot to stop. Never threaten. "Try not, do" -- - dillon I am not invalid When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor. |
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[Default] Thus spake "James" :
"Ray Goldenberg" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:37:11 -0500, "G&V" Bushwick at comcast dot net wrote: I am not talking about that lame stuff. When you are being attacked with RPG's you need real weapons to repel. What you are talking about is no secret, it was widely disseminated in the news. That lame acoustic thing is probably not the reason the attack was broken off. What was more likely the attack was broken off for other reasons by the pirates. I find it hard to believe that the cruise line would put their billion dollar investment on the line with ONLY such a lame device. At some point you have to put rounds into bodies. Small arms fire just can close the distance. My question is what large caliber weapons does the ship carry. Hi G&V, As I stated earlier, the cruise lines have a number of ways to repel pirates and protect their investment. They are not going to publish this information on the Internet to satisfy your curiosity. The so called "lame" defense did work. How do you argue with the facts in the Seabourn attempt? Best regards, Ray OK ray, since you're privy to inside info, how will they repel the Jack Sparrows of the world? Grape shot from swivel guns on the poop deck and chain shot into the masts. -- - dillon I am not invalid When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor. |
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[Default] Thus spake "Richard Bird" :
"Ray Goldenberg" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:15:48 -0000, "Richard Bird" wrote: Would you prefer to see all the waiters carrying machine guns, grenades, RPGs Etc while they serve your dinner so that you feel safe while you eat it, seriously though dont worry all the cruise liners carry an awsome armoury of long range peashooters, spud guns and catapaults also, the crew all hold a black belt in origami (if that's spelt right) so you have nothing to fear Hi Richard, There you go. You let the cat out of the bag! :+) Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com -- Damn i forgot i was sworn to secrecy by the queen herself, Oh well i supose i will be beheaded now for my indiscretion, silly me Beheading. I can handle it if the axe gets me at the neck. It's the other head. -- - dillon I am not invalid When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor. |
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Nonnymus wrote:
My (otherwise quite dignified) parents then stripped in the garage and washed down with the tomato juice, then washing their clothing in the juice. I brought them towels and after drying off, they added the towels to the tomato juice. They then used an old tarp to cover themselves as they walked across the back yard to the house and a good shower. Being myself, I was sorely, very sorely, tempted to lock the house, remove the tub of tomato saturated clothing and drive away in the pickup, but a tiny sense of loyalty overcame that. (Actually, it was the certainty of what would have happened to me when/if my parents had ever found me). Somehow, the though of leaving my parents nude in the garage, no clothing around, no keys to the house and the house locked still makes me chuckle. It also helps to explain my own kids to the good folk who've met them on cruises. Grin I was only 12 or so at the time, and when washing the truck off with the garden hose didn't work in the least, I simply drove it to a new-fangled thing in town called a wand-type carwash, where a couple quarters got lots of hot soapy water. If I recall correctly, the smell finally dissipated in a week or so, though the clothing was eventually discarded, along with the towels they'd use. You should write a book, Nonny. :-) Becca |
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Becca wrote:
Nonnymus wrote: My (otherwise quite dignified) parents then stripped in the garage and washed down with the tomato juice, then washing their clothing in the juice. I brought them towels and after drying off, they added the towels to the tomato juice. They then used an old tarp to cover themselves as they walked across the back yard to the house and a good shower. Being myself, I was sorely, very sorely, tempted to lock the house, remove the tub of tomato saturated clothing and drive away in the pickup, but a tiny sense of loyalty overcame that. (Actually, it was the certainty of what would have happened to me when/if my parents had ever found me). Somehow, the though of leaving my parents nude in the garage, no clothing around, no keys to the house and the house locked still makes me chuckle. It also helps to explain my own kids to the good folk who've met them on cruises. Grin I was only 12 or so at the time, and when washing the truck off with the garden hose didn't work in the least, I simply drove it to a new-fangled thing in town called a wand-type carwash, where a couple quarters got lots of hot soapy water. If I recall correctly, the smell finally dissipated in a week or so, though the clothing was eventually discarded, along with the towels they'd use. You should write a book, Nonny. :-) Becca Actually, Becca,I have enough of Nonny's stories in my document file to fill a book. Do ya reckon it would sell? Ermalee |
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Nonnymus wrote:
Dillon Pyron wrote: A while back, Mythbusters did an episode on the best way to destiink after getting skunked. They tried three different skunks (all caged) and did things like poke it in the backside, with no results. They finally had to buy some "essence of skunk". Only after they used it did they read the instruction "mix bottle with one quart of water". -- Tomato juice for deskunking is an old wives' tale. It doesn't work. I can't remember off the top of my head what does work and I'm on a cruise ATM so I don't want to waste time googling, but you can do it yourselves. Back as a kid in MO, I remember one summer evening when Mom and Dad returned in the pickup from taking a load of brush out to the city dump. On the way home, they ran over a skunk, flipping it up under the truck. The skunk didn't "stick" up under the truck, but it sure had ample opportunity to liberally douse the underside with scent. Dad parked in the driveway and I was ordered to take a hose and wash off the underside. Before doing that, Mom had me run to the celler and bring up a couple quarts of stewed tomatoes she'd canned and they crushed them in an old laundry tub out by the garage. The actual spray was confined to under the truck, but Mom and Dad had enough of the scent on them that you'd have thought they'd been sprayed directly. My (otherwise quite dignified) parents then stripped in the garage and washed down with the tomato juice, then washing their clothing in the juice. I brought them towels and after drying off, they added the towels to the tomato juice. They then used an old tarp to cover themselves as they walked across the back yard to the house and a good shower. Being myself, I was sorely, very sorely, tempted to lock the house, remove the tub of tomato saturated clothing and drive away in the pickup, but a tiny sense of loyalty overcame that. (Actually, it was the certainty of what would have happened to me when/if my parents had ever found me). Somehow, the though of leaving my parents nude in the garage, no clothing around, no keys to the house and the house locked still makes me chuckle. It also helps to explain my own kids to the good folk who've met them on cruises. Grin I was only 12 or so at the time, and when washing the truck off with the garden hose didn't work in the least, I simply drove it to a new-fangled thing in town called a wand-type carwash, where a couple quarters got lots of hot soapy water. If I recall correctly, the smell finally dissipated in a week or so, though the clothing was eventually discarded, along with the towels they'd use. Nonnymus- Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. -Mark Twain |
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On 11/29/2008 2:09 PM Nonnymus did a "happy dance", then made these
writings: George Leppla wrote: "Nonnymus" wrote Becca, the best way to get rid of the skunk is to have George crawl under the house, grab the skunk by the tail and toss it out to you. You take a broom, whack him in the rear end several times and he'll run away. That's the way we did it back in MO. Grin Wow, after reading that I became worried that you might misinterpret it. I was suggesting whacking the SKUNK, not George in the rear end several times. Whacking George in the rear end several times with a broom would probably only make him irritable. The skunk has dug a burrow under the slab. He/she is a cute critter and if the damn thing would quit tearing up the lawn and flower beds, I'd be tempted to let him/her be. But the possibility that it is a she means I might have a whole litter of skunks come Spring... and that doesn't appeal to me. We are going to try dumping ammonia down the hole... and cayenne pepper around the area and hopefully that will start the Great Skunk Exodus of 2009. It's good to see you're still posting, George, and not laid up from being whacked in the rear by a broom. FWIW, if you or Becca get sprayed, the remedy is to wash off the scent from your body and clothing with tomato juice. You might also consider getting a packet or two of Squirrel Away. It's a very concentrated version of cayenne powder that you put on birdseed. The birds don't notice it, but squirrels, possums, coons and other critters sure do. Please don't ask me how I know this, but after pouring the powder into birdseed and stirring it in with your hands, do NOT, ever, never, under any circumstances, go and urinate. The stuff stays on your hands for a long, long time and the pain is incredible. Only a real dummy would do that and I'm sure you're a lot smarter than I was. Why stop with cayenne pepper? Use what the Mexicans use, Habanero! You know what else is the universal repellent for all kinds of nuisance critters from Canadian Geese (without their green cards), to the odd rodent - wolf urine. It can be obtained from some zoos or wolf research centers. Just make sure that the wolf you get it from is not a female wolf in heat. Wolfs are natural predators of these as well as raccoons. The scent of wolfs urine scares the "b'jesus" out of 'em; they either drop dead with fright or run for the hills. Deer don't come to nosh on my chrysanthemums any more. -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "The poor dog is the firmest friend, the first to welcome the foremost to defend" - Lord Byron View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 |
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