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Odysseus wrote:
I will need to fly to Buenos Aires, Argentina for my next cruise. Like most people, I hate the narrow seats on airplanes. It's especially bad if you find yourself sitting next to an obese person. I looked into going business class but the cost is several times that of economy class. I thought a good way around this situation is to book two seats for myself to ensure that the one next to me will be vacant. What are the chances that an airline will allow me to book two seats for myself? I don't know what airline Orient Lines will use. I am traveling solo and I am a small person. I am just claustrophobic. If the plane is overbooked or crowded, will the extra seat be taken away from me? If so, will I get a refund? Could the flight attendant move somebody into my extra seat during the flight? If this happens, will I get a refund? I don't mind paying more for two seats to ensure that I get extra room. But, I want a guarantee from the airline that I will be able to have the extra seat even if the flight is overbooked and that I will be allowed to keep that seat for the entire flight. If the seat is taken away from me for any portion of the flight, I want a full refund. Fat chance of any airline agreeing to that. I'm probably throwing my money away trying to book two seats for myself. Er, uh, maybe you could tell them you weigh 320 lbs.! -- Why is it the sensors seeking intelligent life are pointed away from earth? |
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"Tom K" wrote And what if the plane was overbooked - which frequently happens? Let's say there are 10 people with tickets but without seat assignments... and there are 4 empty seats on the plane including "your extra". What are the chances that they let you keep your empty seat, while they tell 7 people that they've all gotta stay behind? You paid for the seat and have a legal right to keep possession. They may ask you to volunteer to give it up and at that point, offer you cash or other in-kind inducements but you do not have to surrender it and I know of no instance where someone was forced to give up a paid extra seat. FWIW, I advise a large group of people seeking weight loss surgery and many times they buy two seats. In the past 4 years, I have never heard of anyone being denied their extra seat or even be asked to voluntarily give it up. The flight I took to Brazil in 2002 was oversold and I was not asked to give up the extra seat I had bought. -- George in PA http://www.countryside-travel.com The Mother of All Group Cruises 2 - http://www.moagc2.com/ May 20, 2006, Caribbean Princess - http://cruisemaster.com/caribprin.htm October 29, 2006 - SLEAZY 4! http://cruisemaster.com/sleazy4.htm |
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"George Leppla" wrote in message ... "Tom K" wrote And what if the plane was overbooked - which frequently happens? Let's say there are 10 people with tickets but without seat assignments... and there are 4 empty seats on the plane including "your extra". What are the chances that they let you keep your empty seat, while they tell 7 people that they've all gotta stay behind? You paid for the seat and have a legal right to keep possession. They may ask you to volunteer to give it up and at that point, offer you cash or other in-kind inducements but you do not have to surrender it and I know of no instance where someone was forced to give up a paid extra seat. FWIW, I advise a large group of people seeking weight loss surgery and many times they buy two seats. In the past 4 years, I have never heard of anyone being denied their extra seat or even be asked to voluntarily give it up. The flight I took to Brazil in 2002 was oversold and I was not asked to give up the extra seat I had bought. Needing 2 seats because of size, or because of a musical instrument, etc., is one thing. The seat isn't actually empty. It's being used. But the OP said they were a small person, and the seat would remain empty. If the plane wasn't sold out, I can see how you could expect the seat to be kept empty. But if it was overbooked... how could they deny someone the seat rather than be left behind? I see the problem occurring in that kind of situation. Would they then refund the price? I view that kind of like trying to get money back from an insurance company or the IRS.... --Tom |
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DANIAL,what airline do you fly that still serves meals?
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But the OP said they were a small person, and the seat would remain empty. If the plane wasn't sold out, I can see how you could expect the seat to be kept empty. But if it was overbooked... how could they deny someone the seat rather than be left behind? I see the problem occurring in that kind of situation. Would they then refund the price? I view that kind of like trying to get money back from an insurance company or the IRS.... Getting a refund could be difficult. I will be buying my airfare through Orient Lines. If the airline refunds the money, they will give it to the cruise line not me. Another complication is that I will be traveling internationally and dealing with the laws of two countries. I can see another potential problem. The plane is completely booked but I get to keep my empty seat. During the flight another passenger's seat breaks or becomes unusable. The flight attendant moves him to my empty seat. I think I will have a hard time getting a refund in that situation. If the airline overbooks the flight, it is not my problem. I paid for that extra seat and feel entitled to keep it. The overbooking is a problem between the airline and the passenger who is denied boarding. IMHO, I am entitled to book as many seats for myself as I want. If I want to buy four seats and lay across them, I should be able to do so. If I want to buy 50 seats to ensure that there are no crying babies near me, I should be able to do so. I realize airlines don't see it that way. They think that they are entitled to do whatever they want and treat passengers anyway they want. If a passenger objects, he will be deemed belligerent and arrested. |
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Most International flights still serve meals; especially on flights
over five hours. Cheers, DaniEl ---------------------------------------------------------------- Do Airlines Let You Book Two Seats for One Person? Group: rec.travel.cruises Date: Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 10:27pm (PDT+3) From: (Surfer=A0E2468) DANIAL,what airline do you fly that still serves meals? |
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"Tom K" wrote But the OP said they were a small person, and the seat would remain empty. If the plane wasn't sold out, I can see how you could expect the seat to be kept empty. But if it was overbooked... how could they deny someone the seat rather than be left behind? I see the problem occurring in that kind of situation. Would they then refund the price? Excuse me. Here I thought my numerous real-life personal experiences and the experiences of a few hundreds of other people I know would be enough to show that this doesn't usually happen.... but why listen to factual information when we can rely on Tom's hypothetical suppositions? As long as we have Tom's conjecture, we have no need for facts and I apologize for taking up the newsgroup's time. -- George in PA http://www.countryside-travel.com The Mother of All Group Cruises 2 - http://www.moagc2.com/ May 20, 2006, Caribbean Princess - http://cruisemaster.com/caribprin.htm October 29, 2006 - SLEAZY 4! http://cruisemaster.com/sleazy4.htm |
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"George Leppla" wrote in message ... "Tom K" wrote But the OP said they were a small person, and the seat would remain empty. If the plane wasn't sold out, I can see how you could expect the seat to be kept empty. But if it was overbooked... how could they deny someone the seat rather than be left behind? I see the problem occurring in that kind of situation. Would they then refund the price? Excuse me. Here I thought my numerous real-life personal experiences and the experiences of a few hundreds of other people I know would be enough to show that this doesn't usually happen.... but why listen to factual information when we can rely on Tom's hypothetical suppositions? As long as we have Tom's conjecture, we have no need for facts and I apologize for taking up the newsgroup's time. Sorry for trying to hold a conversation with you. I didn't know that wasn't permitted. I'll know better next time... so there will be no need to ridicule me... --Tom |
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"George Leppla" wrote in message ... Excuse me. Here I thought my numerous real-life personal experiences and the experiences of a few hundreds of other people I know would be enough to show that this doesn't usually happen.... but why listen to factual information when we can rely on Tom's hypothetical suppositions? As long as we have Tom's conjecture, we have no need for facts and I apologize for taking up the newsgroup's time. Whoa! Before we let tempers flare..:-) I know that you personally have had multi experiences with two seats being reserved for people who have a weight problem, George...I myself, would really appreciate it, if I were in a 3 seat configuration seating with a person who was very large and they purchased two seats..It would definitely be more comfortable for me..But just as a hypothetical question, as Tom posted, and if I understood him correctly, ..If a thin person purchased two seats and the airline were overbooked...would that thin person be asked or pressured to give up that second seat..and if they were, would they be compensated if they agreed to do that? I'm curious... --Jean |
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