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Old March 24th, 2008, 10:19 PM posted to rec.travel.air
JA_Moran
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new checklist item for some pilots
flaps----check
fuel--check

gun safety on and locked ???
gun properly holstered ???


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DENVER - A gun belonging to the pilot of a US Airways plane discharged
as the aircraft was on approach to land in North Carolina over the
weekend, the first time a weapon issued under a federal program to arm
pilots was fired, authorities said Monday.

The "accidental discharge" Saturday aboard Flight 1536 from Denver to
Charlotte did not pose a danger to the aircraft or the 124 passengers,
two pilots and three flight attendants aboard, said Greg Alter of the
Federal Air Marshal Service.

"We know that there was never any danger to the aircraft or to the
occupants on board," Alter said.




The firing is the first time a pilot's weapon has been fired on a plane
under a program created after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks to
allow pilots, for example, to use a firearm to defend against any act of
air piracy or criminal violence, he said.

The Transportation Security Administration is investigating how the gun
discharged and is being assisted by the Air Marshal Service, Alter said.

Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Mike Fergus said his agency is
also investigating to make sure that the plane is safe. The aircraft has
been removed from service, the airline said.
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Old March 24th, 2008, 10:49 PM posted to rec.travel.air
William Black
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"JA_MORAN" wrote in message
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new checklist item for some pilots
flaps----check
fuel--check

gun safety on and locked ???
gun properly holstered ???


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DENVER - A gun belonging to the pilot of a US Airways plane discharged as
the aircraft was on approach to land in North Carolina over the weekend,
the first time a weapon issued under a federal program to arm pilots was
fired, authorities said Monday.


You mean they've actually gone and done it.

Not only that, someone was so badly trained that they actually had a
'negligent discharge' while flying an airplane!

Are the authorities in the USA certifiable or is this a hoax?

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




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Old March 25th, 2008, 12:08 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Duh_OZ
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Default new checklist item

On Mar 24, 5:19 pm, JA_MORAN wrote:
new checklist item for some pilots
flaps----check
fuel--check

gun safety on and locked ???
gun properly holstered ???

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DENVER - A gun belonging to the pilot of a US Airways plane discharged
as the aircraft was on approach to land in North Carolina over the
weekend, the first time a weapon issued under a federal program to arm
pilots was fired, authorities said Monday.

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I didn't see any references to the altitude at the time of the
discharge. AP has a blurb ""If that bullet had compromised the shell
of the airplane, i.e., gone through a window, the airplane could have
gone down." Stating they were on approach I assume the plane was
15,000 ft or lower.

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Old March 25th, 2008, 01:48 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Bert Hyman
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(Duh_OZ) wrote in
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AP has a blurb ""If that bullet had compromised the shell
of the airplane, i.e., gone through a window, the airplane could
have gone down."


Nonsense, unless you take a really strained interpretation of "could."

http://lugar.senate.gov/CRS%20report...ing_pilots.pdf

"Mr. Ron Hinderberger, Director of Aviation Safety for the Boeing
Company stated that "[t]he risk of loss of the aircraft due to a
stray round from a handgun is very slight. Boeing commercial service
history contains cases of gunfire onboard in-service airplanes, all
of which landed safely." Hinderberger further noted that
"[c]ommercial airplane structure is designed with sufficient
strength, redundancy, and damage tolerance that single or even
multiple handgun bullet holes would not result in loss of the
aircraft. A single bullet hole in the fuselage skin would have little
effect on cabin pressurization."

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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN |
 




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