Motorists hit by card clone scam

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6578595.stm

Thousands of motorists who use a bank card to buy petrol are thought to have
lost millions of pounds in a scam allegedly linked to Tamil rebels.

It is believed cards are being skimmed at petrol stations, whereby the card
details and pin numbers are retrieved and money withdrawn from the account.

About 200 of the UK's 9,500 petrol stations are thought to have been hit.

The Sri Lankan government has claimed its opponents, the Tamil Tigers, are
behind the scam.

Police are investigating complaints made in Edinburgh, Norwich, Bury St
Edmunds, Peterborough, Nottingham, Leeds, Bristol and Hull.

In Hull, the economic crime section of Humberside Police are checking
thousands of receipts for fuel bought with credit or debit cards at one
petrol station.

Detective Inspector Paul Welton, of Humberside Police, said "Quite clearly
this was well-organised and it was done on an international basis."

Those alleged to have been involved were able to obtain card details and pin
numbers and put them together to clone the cards, police said.

The site in Hull is now under new management, and the new owners are not
linked to the police inquiry.

Sean Gillespie, one of thousands of possible victims, noticed his bank
account was being emptied of small amounts over weeks, amounting to
thousands of pounds.

"I knew how much had been taken but how it was taken was an absolute mystery
to me," he told BBC News.

'Arms funding'

Most of the UK's petrol stations are independently run which means they are
susceptible to being infiltrated by organised crime.

And the Sri Lankan Government believes it is the Tamil Tigers who are using
threats to coerce innocent Sri Lankans to take part in the scam.

They say Tamil asylum seekers arriving in the UK are loaned money to open a
petrol station, and once established they supply information to the
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE).

Maxwell Keegel, first secretary of the Sri Lankan High Commission in London,
said: "They extract the pin and details from the cards and within minutes
this information is sent to LTTE agents who operate in remote parts of the
world, as far away as Thailand and Indonesia.

"And the money goes unwittingly from people's accounts and ends up going
into the LTTE's arms activities."

The petrol industry accepts it is a problem.

Some retailers have already replaced all their chip and pin machines, while
some consumers are only using cash to buy petrol.

Nick Vandervell, of the UK Petroleum Industry Association, said "We are
working with the independent retailers but it is difficult to tell them what
to do."

Incredible the number of people who think they just must post news articles
they haven't written themselves !!!
Not a comment, which would be OT anyway, not a mind for themselves,
crosspost is preferable, and let us compete between evleth (the mother of
all spammers), martin, michaelnewport aka crapman, morrow and a few others.
What drives these people to act like that?
Old age ?
Sense of uselessness ?
No one to tell them they are brave and beautiful ?




"Tom Bradbury" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6578595.stm

Thousands of motorists who use a bank card to buy petrol are thought to
have lost millions of pounds in a scam allegedly linked to Tamil rebels.

It is believed cards are being skimmed at petrol stations, whereby the
card details and pin numbers are retrieved and money withdrawn from the
account.

About 200 of the UK's 9,500 petrol stations are thought to have been hit.

The Sri Lankan government has claimed its opponents, the Tamil Tigers, are
behind the scam.

Police are investigating complaints made in Edinburgh, Norwich, Bury St
Edmunds, Peterborough, Nottingham, Leeds, Bristol and Hull.

In Hull, the economic crime section of Humberside Police are checking
thousands of receipts for fuel bought with credit or debit cards at one
petrol station.

Detective Inspector Paul Welton, of Humberside Police, said "Quite clearly
this was well-organised and it was done on an international basis."

Those alleged to have been involved were able to obtain card details and
pin numbers and put them together to clone the cards, police said.

The site in Hull is now under new management, and the new owners are not
linked to the police inquiry.

Sean Gillespie, one of thousands of possible victims, noticed his bank
account was being emptied of small amounts over weeks, amounting to
thousands of pounds.

"I knew how much had been taken but how it was taken was an absolute
mystery to me," he told BBC News.

'Arms funding'

Most of the UK's petrol stations are independently run which means they
are susceptible to being infiltrated by organised crime.

And the Sri Lankan Government believes it is the Tamil Tigers who are
using threats to coerce innocent Sri Lankans to take part in the scam.

They say Tamil asylum seekers arriving in the UK are loaned money to open
a petrol station, and once established they supply information to the
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE).

Maxwell Keegel, first secretary of the Sri Lankan High Commission in
London, said: "They extract the pin and details from the cards and within
minutes this information is sent to LTTE agents who operate in remote
parts of the world, as far away as Thailand and Indonesia.

"And the money goes unwittingly from people's accounts and ends up going
into the LTTE's arms activities."

The petrol industry accepts it is a problem.

Some retailers have already replaced all their chip and pin machines,
while some consumers are only using cash to buy petrol.

Nick Vandervell, of the UK Petroleum Industry Association, said "We are
working with the independent retailers but it is difficult to tell them
what to do."

"Runge1" wrote in message
...
Incredible the number of people who think they just must post news
articles they haven't written themselves !!!
Not a comment, which would be OT anyway, not a mind for themselves,
crosspost is preferable, and let us compete between evleth (the mother of
all spammers), martin, michaelnewport aka crapman, morrow and a few
others.
What drives these people to act like that?
Old age ?
Sense of uselessness ?
No one to tell them they are brave and beautiful ?




"Tom Bradbury" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6578595.stm

Thousands of motorists who use a bank card to buy petrol are thought to
have lost millions of pounds in a scam allegedly linked to Tamil rebels.



I agree with you, the link would say it all. Having said that top posting is
not viewed as polite on newsgroups, so as in life, no one is perfect ;-)

"Tom Bradbury" writes:

Maxwell Keegel, first secretary of the Sri Lankan High Commission in London,
said: "They extract the pin and details from the cards and within minutes
this information is sent to LTTE agents who operate in remote parts of the
world, as far away as Thailand and Indonesia.

"And the money goes unwittingly from people's accounts and ends up going
into the LTTE's arms activities."

Surely it must raise (hopefully very loud) alarm bells if a card is used
in quick succession in two widely separated locations. As it is claimed
that the PIN is captured, this implies that the fraud involves
cardholder present transaction (or withdraw from ATMs) using a cloned
magnetic stripe card. As the same card cannot legitimately be in two
places at once or be moved too rapidly from one place to another, should
this type of fraud not be easier to detect than CNP frauds?

"Graham Murray" wrote in message
...
"Tom Bradbury" writes:

Maxwell Keegel, first secretary of the Sri Lankan High Commission in
London,
said: "They extract the pin and details from the cards and within minutes
this information is sent to LTTE agents who operate in remote parts of
the
world, as far away as Thailand and Indonesia.

"And the money goes unwittingly from people's accounts and ends up going
into the LTTE's arms activities."

Surely it must raise (hopefully very loud) alarm bells if a card is used
in quick succession in two widely separated locations. As it is claimed
that the PIN is captured, this implies that the fraud involves
cardholder present transaction (or withdraw from ATMs) using a cloned
magnetic stripe card. As the same card cannot legitimately be in two
places at once or be moved too rapidly from one place to another, should
this type of fraud not be easier to detect than CNP frauds?

It would make life difficult if, for example, you filled your car up in
Leeds, jumped on a couple of planes and then used your card to get some
cash in Bombay twelve hours later...

And yes, it is possible, just...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Apr 21, 2:20 pm, "Gio" wrote:
"Runge1" wrote in message

...



Incredible the number of people who think they just must post news
articles they haven't written themselves !!!
Not a comment, which would be OT anyway, not a mind for themselves,
crosspost is preferable, and let us compete between evleth (the mother of
all spammers), martin, michaelnewport aka crapman, morrow and a few
others.
What drives these people to act like that?
Old age ?
Sense of uselessness ?
No one to tell them they are brave and beautiful ?

"Tom Bradbury" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6578595.stm

Thousands of motorists who use a bank card to buy petrol are thought to
have lost millions of pounds in a scam allegedly linked to Tamil rebels.

I agree with you, the link would say it all. Having said that top posting is
not viewed as polite on newsgroups, so as in life, no one is perfect ;-)

The link is there to prove the validity of the article
I prefer to have both, then I can read it without opening another
window.
But I never reply to scRunge because he is worthless.

"Graham Murray" wrote in message
...
"Tom Bradbury" writes:

Maxwell Keegel, first secretary of the Sri Lankan High Commission in
London,
said: "They extract the pin and details from the cards and within minutes
this information is sent to LTTE agents who operate in remote parts of
the
world, as far away as Thailand and Indonesia.

"And the money goes unwittingly from people's accounts and ends up going
into the LTTE's arms activities."

Surely it must raise (hopefully very loud) alarm bells if a card is used
in quick succession in two widely separated locations. As it is claimed
that the PIN is captured, this implies that the fraud involves
cardholder present transaction (or withdraw from ATMs) using a cloned
magnetic stripe card. As the same card cannot legitimately be in two
places at once or be moved too rapidly from one place to another, should
this type of fraud not be easier to detect than CNP frauds?

I have had credit card transactions questioned by my 'Goldfish' credit card
company before now because I have used it to fill up on route from and to
Scotland to the south of England, so for whatever reason either my account
was being watched or the locations where purchases were made. It was not as
though a tank fill up was a large amount.

"William Black" wrote in message
...

"Graham Murray" wrote in message
...
"Tom Bradbury" writes:

Maxwell Keegel, first secretary of the Sri Lankan High Commission in
London,
said: "They extract the pin and details from the cards and within
minutes
this information is sent to LTTE agents who operate in remote parts of
the
world, as far away as Thailand and Indonesia.

"And the money goes unwittingly from people's accounts and ends up going
into the LTTE's arms activities."

Surely it must raise (hopefully very loud) alarm bells if a card is used
in quick succession in two widely separated locations. As it is claimed
that the PIN is captured, this implies that the fraud involves
cardholder present transaction (or withdraw from ATMs) using a cloned
magnetic stripe card. As the same card cannot legitimately be in two
places at once or be moved too rapidly from one place to another, should
this type of fraud not be easier to detect than CNP frauds?

It would make life difficult if, for example, you filled your car up in
Leeds, jumped on a couple of planes and then used your card to get some
cash in Bombay twelve hours later...

And yes, it is possible, just...

My friend had a transaction on his bounced for
being in a second country less than an hour later!

But I do think that it should be possible to pick up
odd transactions in Asia, very few people go back
and forth that far every 2 days

tim

Runge1 wrote:
Incredible the number of people who think they just must post news
articles they haven't written themselves !!!
Not a comment, which would be OT anyway, not a mind for themselves,
crosspost is preferable, and let us compete between evleth (the
mother of all spammers), martin, michaelnewport aka crapman, morrow
and a few others. What drives these people to act like that?
Old age ?
Sense of uselessness ?
No one to tell them they are brave and beautiful ?

And who rocked your boat you miserable old fart ? :-)

The Siri Lankans are running petrol stations in Europe?

Tom Bradbury wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6578595.stm

Thousands of motorists who use a bank card to buy petrol are thought to have
lost millions of pounds in a scam allegedly linked to Tamil rebels.

It is believed cards are being skimmed at petrol stations, whereby the card
details and pin numbers are retrieved and money withdrawn from the account.

About 200 of the UK's 9,500 petrol stations are thought to have been hit.

The Sri Lankan government has claimed its opponents, the Tamil Tigers, are
behind the scam.

Police are investigating complaints made in Edinburgh, Norwich, Bury St
Edmunds, Peterborough, Nottingham, Leeds, Bristol and Hull.

In Hull, the economic crime section of Humberside Police are checking
thousands of receipts for fuel bought with credit or debit cards at one
petrol station.

Detective Inspector Paul Welton, of Humberside Police, said "Quite clearly
this was well-organised and it was done on an international basis."

Those alleged to have been involved were able to obtain card details and pin
numbers and put them together to clone the cards, police said.

The site in Hull is now under new management, and the new owners are not
linked to the police inquiry.

Sean Gillespie, one of thousands of possible victims, noticed his bank
account was being emptied of small amounts over weeks, amounting to
thousands of pounds.

"I knew how much had been taken but how it was taken was an absolute mystery
to me," he told BBC News.

'Arms funding'

Most of the UK's petrol stations are independently run which means they are
susceptible to being infiltrated by organised crime.

And the Sri Lankan Government believes it is the Tamil Tigers who are using
threats to coerce innocent Sri Lankans to take part in the scam.

They say Tamil asylum seekers arriving in the UK are loaned money to open a
petrol station, and once established they supply information to the
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE).

Maxwell Keegel, first secretary of the Sri Lankan High Commission in London,
said: "They extract the pin and details from the cards and within minutes
this information is sent to LTTE agents who operate in remote parts of the
world, as far away as Thailand and Indonesia.

"And the money goes unwittingly from people's accounts and ends up going
into the LTTE's arms activities."

The petrol industry accepts it is a problem.

Some retailers have already replaced all their chip and pin machines, while
some consumers are only using cash to buy petrol.

Nick Vandervell, of the UK Petroleum Industry Association, said "We are
working with the independent retailers but it is difficult to tell them what
to do."