Are the British European?

Following up to Keith Willshaw

Irishs are Europeans because they have adopted the Euro.

The currency used is irrelevant

Indeed

Ireland feels no more European than England

Ireland feels totally European, UK feels totally European, its
not the same European of course. It depends what your idea of
European is, pavement cafes and siestas or Autobahns without
speed limits and efficient factories?
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"Padraig Breathnach" wrote in message
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The Reids wrote:

Following up to Mark Hewitt

I thought the Irish spoke Gaelic - anyway I cant understand what they
say.

No they don't

they do in Kerry.

About 2,000 of the people of Kerry speak it as their first language.


and the rest speak it when there is an Englander around :-)

"Padraig Breathnach" wrote in message
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The Reids wrote:

Following up to Mark Hewitt

I thought the Irish spoke Gaelic - anyway I cant understand what they
say.

No they don't

they do in Kerry.

About 2,000 of the people of Kerry speak it as their first language.


and the rest speak it when there is an Englander around :-)

The Reids wrote:

Following up to Mark Hewitt

I thought the Irish spoke Gaelic - anyway I cant understand what they say.

No they don't

they do in Kerry.

About 2,000 of the people of Kerry speak it as their first language.

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The Reids wrote:

Following up to Mark Hewitt

I thought the Irish spoke Gaelic - anyway I cant understand what they say.

No they don't

they do in Kerry.

About 2,000 of the people of Kerry speak it as their first language.

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"Keith Willshaw" wrote:


"Agena 2003" wrote in message
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Irishs are Europeans because they have adopted the Euro.

The currency used is irrelevant

Ireland feels no more European than England

Ireland feels nothing. Very many Irish people, most likely a good
majority of us, identify with Europe. I have the impression that a
much smaller proportion of British (and particularly English) people
identify with Europe.

....
Mainland Europe has a different legal, political and cultural tradition
to the outlying islands. Language is part of it of course but the
main diference IMHO is in cultural attitudes in the UK and Ireland.

In my opinion, a dominant component of the cultural chasm between
Britain and Europe is the power of the popular press. It seems to me
to be ironic than an Australian-born US citizen has had more impact on
Britain's relationship with Europe than any other person.

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"Keith Willshaw" wrote:


"Agena 2003" wrote in message
...
Irishs are Europeans because they have adopted the Euro.

The currency used is irrelevant

Ireland feels no more European than England

Ireland feels nothing. Very many Irish people, most likely a good
majority of us, identify with Europe. I have the impression that a
much smaller proportion of British (and particularly English) people
identify with Europe.

....
Mainland Europe has a different legal, political and cultural tradition
to the outlying islands. Language is part of it of course but the
main diference IMHO is in cultural attitudes in the UK and Ireland.

In my opinion, a dominant component of the cultural chasm between
Britain and Europe is the power of the popular press. It seems to me
to be ironic than an Australian-born US citizen has had more impact on
Britain's relationship with Europe than any other person.

--
PB
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"Padraig Breathnach" wrote in message
...
"Keith Willshaw" wrote:


"Agena 2003" wrote in message
...
Irishs are Europeans because they have adopted the Euro.

The currency used is irrelevant

Ireland feels no more European than England

Ireland feels nothing. Very many Irish people, most likely a good
majority of us, identify with Europe. I have the impression that a
much smaller proportion of British (and particularly English) people
identify with Europe.

...
Mainland Europe has a different legal, political and cultural tradition
to the outlying islands. Language is part of it of course but the
main diference IMHO is in cultural attitudes in the UK and Ireland.

In my opinion, a dominant component of the cultural chasm between
Britain and Europe is the power of the popular press. It seems to me
to be ironic than an Australian-born US citizen has had more impact on
Britain's relationship with Europe than any other person.


I dont think he does, Rupe is out to sell advertising in his
papers and on his media outlets, the best way is to
reflect the prejudices of his target audience , hence
Fox News, The Sun etc

Keith




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"Padraig Breathnach" wrote in message
...
"Keith Willshaw" wrote:


"Agena 2003" wrote in message
...
Irishs are Europeans because they have adopted the Euro.

The currency used is irrelevant

Ireland feels no more European than England

Ireland feels nothing. Very many Irish people, most likely a good
majority of us, identify with Europe. I have the impression that a
much smaller proportion of British (and particularly English) people
identify with Europe.

...
Mainland Europe has a different legal, political and cultural tradition
to the outlying islands. Language is part of it of course but the
main diference IMHO is in cultural attitudes in the UK and Ireland.

In my opinion, a dominant component of the cultural chasm between
Britain and Europe is the power of the popular press. It seems to me
to be ironic than an Australian-born US citizen has had more impact on
Britain's relationship with Europe than any other person.


I dont think he does, Rupe is out to sell advertising in his
papers and on his media outlets, the best way is to
reflect the prejudices of his target audience , hence
Fox News, The Sun etc

Keith




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Oooooooo Yes, I visited UK last week and was astounded by the
_complete_ lack of knowledge of things in other parts of Europe. I am
not talking Macro-Economics here, just basic things (eg where Germany
is on a map). What was more shocking though, was that no value was
given to this knowledge. In most of the ex-UK countries I have
lived-in, there is a general appreciation of what goes on outside, even
if there is the advantage of land borders.

I was in a hotel lobby in France last week and I was subjected to a
Brit-Bore talking non-stop for 2-hours about his timeshare in Malaga,
as though he was some kind of pioneering-worldly-wise-traveller. The
guy
he was talking to can't have said two sentences during the whole
discourse.

Being part of a bigger whole does not sit too well with the British
Psyche IMHO.

Dave


homehelp wrote:
Has anyone else had the experience of Britain as "feeling" different
from the rest of Europe. For us anglophones (I am in Canada), is it
just because there is no language barrier there?

Interested in opinions.
David
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