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At what point will air travel become unaffordable
When do people think it happen, due to fuel prices.
For example - when will buying an economy ticket be as much of a burden on your wallet as buying a business class ticket is now? Long before it becomes too expensive, it will become too much of a pain in the ass, security-wise. The next terrorist will use plastic explosive in shoulder pads of sportcoats or in padded underwear. Then the security monkeys will have no choice but to strip search many passengers and that will be the last straw for many travelers, economy or business. When the explosives detectors finally become sensitive enough to detect these new threats, the terrorists will find a way to insert explosives up their butt, where only a determined strip search will find it. We are going to return to the dark days when most people never traveled very far from home. People in Europe won't be affected as much as they will be able to travel by train to many interesting countries. But the USA and Canada will become a never-ending suburbia where everyone spends all of their time and money on their decks and entertainment rooms. Travel while you still can. |
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"spamfree" a écrit dans le message de news: ... When do people think it happen, due to fuel prices. For example - when will buying an economy ticket be as much of a burden on your wallet as buying a business class ticket is now? Long before it becomes too expensive, it will become too much of a pain in the ass, security-wise. The next terrorist will use plastic explosive in shoulder pads of sportcoats or in padded underwear. Then the security monkeys will have no choice but to strip search many passengers and that will be the last straw for many travelers, economy or business. When the explosives detectors finally become sensitive enough to detect these new threats, the terrorists will find a way to insert explosives up their butt, where only a determined strip search will find it. We are going to return to the dark days when most people never traveled very far from home. People in Europe won't be affected as much as they will be able to travel by train to many interesting countries. But the USA and Canada will become a never-ending suburbia where everyone spends all of their time and money on their decks and entertainment rooms. Travel while you still can. |
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At what point will air travel become unaffordable
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:31:43 -0600, "spamfree" wrote:
People in Europe won't be affected as much as they will be able to travel by train to many interesting countries. People in Europe won't be affected because they generally mind their own business. That's admirable behavior that no one but a complete idiot would want to change. (change Arabic number to Roman numeral to email) |
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At what point will air travel become unaffordable
spamfree wrote: But the USA and Canada will become a never-ending suburbia where everyone spends all of their time and money on their decks and entertainment rooms. Travel while you still can. And the difference from today is? r/l |
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At what point will air travel become unaffordable
But the USA and Canada will become a never-ending
suburbia where everyone spends all of their time and money on their decks and entertainment rooms. Travel while you still can. And the difference from today is? I do not know the figure for Canada but 20% of Americans have passports. 20% of 300 million is still a lot of travelers. But your point is quite valid, that North American has become the land of the free (free to mindlessly shop at Wal-Mart and Home Depot). |
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At what point will air travel become unaffordable
B Anderson wrote:
But in the future, the world will be a bigger place. You will have to sacrifice thousands of dollars to visit family overseas. Or, take a boat trip of days weeks or even months. Will the price of ship transportation get cheaper when fuel prices make it too expensive to fly. What about the other costs of taking off for weeks or months? |
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:05:18 GMT, mrtravel
wrote: B Anderson wrote: But in the future, the world will be a bigger place. You will have to sacrifice thousands of dollars to visit family overseas. Or, take a boat trip of days weeks or even months. Will the price of ship transportation get cheaper when fuel prices make it too expensive to fly. What about the other costs of taking off for weeks or months? unless they make a lot more sailing ships, surely boats are less efficient at moving people than a plane? Jim. |
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At what point will air travel become unaffordable
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:47:54 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
wrote: On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:27:59 GMT, (Jim Ley) wrote: unless they make a lot more sailing ships, surely boats are less efficient at moving people than a plane? I can't see boats ever being better than planes in any terms apart from comfort. The journey time means you need staff to be employed for long periods, and that's where the costs are. Yet the simple fact is that up well into the 1960s air travel was expensive enough that ships were the preferred means of economy travel from the USA to Europe. As to comfort, I understood at the time comfort wasn't a consideration; the kids partied for the entire crossing. For those who wanted to travel air the cheapest fare was by the non-IATA Iceland Airlines on a turpoprop at US $300 return New York to Amsterdam via Goose Bay, Reykjavik, and Shannon. Adjusted for inflation that $300 is $1901 today. ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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At what point will air travel become unaffordable
Hatunen wrote: On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:47:54 +0200, Dave Frightens Me wrote: On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:27:59 GMT, (Jim Ley) wrote: unless they make a lot more sailing ships, surely boats are less efficient at moving people than a plane? I can't see boats ever being better than planes in any terms apart from comfort. The journey time means you need staff to be employed for long periods, and that's where the costs are. Yet the simple fact is that up well into the 1960s air travel was expensive enough that ships were the preferred means of economy travel from the USA to Europe. As to comfort, I understood at the time comfort wasn't a consideration; the kids partied for the entire crossing. For those who wanted to travel air the cheapest fare was by the non-IATA Iceland Airlines on a turpoprop at US $300 return New York to Amsterdam via Goose Bay, Reykjavik, and Shannon. Adjusted for inflation that $300 is $1901 today. Did Icelandic fly into Amsterdam in their early says? I only remember them from the mid 60s when they flew into Luxembourg to avoid IATA fare rules. In any case I suspect that ship travel could easily be cheaper even with a reasonable level of service. Today the only service level on most ships is high service. (Some river boats excluded.) Certainly for hauling freight where time is not important ships are commonly used. |
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