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Old May 30th, 2011, 09:36 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Janet Wilder
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Default Celebrity is setting cookies.

I posted this on CC this morning and thought I'd do it here. I believe
that Celebrity is setting cookies to prevent people from finding price
drops.

I check daily for price drops on my April, 2012 cruise. Already got one
and saved $200 pp, having been alerted by Cruise Fish. I was away so I
was using the netbook. When I came home and used my desk top, the price
had gone back up to what I had paid. OK. I got a bargain.

I always use Firefox as my browser. For some reason I was using Chrome
and when I went to the page where my cruise was, the price was the one I
had gotten on the drop. I grabbed DH's laptop and sure enough that
price was $200 less than my desk top was showing.

I dumped the cache on my computer, but it didn't change anything. Then
I deleted my cookies. What do your know? The lower price was showing.

Celebrity, it appears, has been sneaking cookies into my browser to keep
me from seeing that there is a price drop on my cruise.

Before I go and check the price now, I delete the Celebrity cookies first.
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Old May 30th, 2011, 10:01 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Dan Wenz[_2_]
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Default Celebrity is setting cookies.

On 5/30/2011 4:36 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:


Before I go and check the price now, I delete the Celebrity cookies first.


Smart move, thanks!
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Old May 31st, 2011, 02:04 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Charles[_1_]
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Default Celebrity is setting cookies.

In article om, Janet
Wilder wrote:

I posted this on CC this morning and thought I'd do it here. I believe
that Celebrity is setting cookies to prevent people from finding price
drops.


That makes no sense. They want people to know the price. You are saying
they are somehow setting a cookie directed at you that knows you
booked? I am unconvinced.

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Old May 31st, 2011, 02:19 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Tom K
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Default Celebrity is setting cookies.

On 5/30/11 9:04 PM, Charles wrote:
In raweb.com, Janet
wrote:

I posted this on CC this morning and thought I'd do it here. I believe
that Celebrity is setting cookies to prevent people from finding price
drops.


That makes no sense. They want people to know the price. You are saying
they are somehow setting a cookie directed at you that knows you
booked? I am unconvinced.


More likely just that something didn't get refreshed. Like if the
computer had that page stored in Cache. So it just came back up without
the update.
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Old May 31st, 2011, 05:13 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Janet Wilder
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Default Celebrity is setting cookies.

On 5/30/2011 8:04 PM, Charles wrote:
In raweb.com, Janet
wrote:

I posted this on CC this morning and thought I'd do it here. I believe
that Celebrity is setting cookies to prevent people from finding price
drops.


That makes no sense. They want people to know the price. You are saying
they are somehow setting a cookie directed at you that knows you
booked? I am unconvinced.


I believe that they have a counter that counts how many times an IP hits
the site where the cruise price is. Once an IP address hits that site a
certain number of times, it is assumed that that person is looking for
price drops. Why else would someone hit a site every day for months?

When their counter detects this, it sets a cookie with the price at the
time the counter is programmed to do it. The cookie is set to take you
to a screen with an old price.

It's not rocket science. Hotels and airlines do it.

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Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
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Old May 31st, 2011, 05:14 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Janet Wilder
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Default Celebrity is setting cookies.

On 5/30/2011 8:19 PM, Tom K wrote:
On 5/30/11 9:04 PM, Charles wrote:
In raweb.com, Janet
wrote:

I posted this on CC this morning and thought I'd do it here. I believe
that Celebrity is setting cookies to prevent people from finding price
drops.


That makes no sense. They want people to know the price. You are saying
they are somehow setting a cookie directed at you that knows you
booked? I am unconvinced.


More likely just that something didn't get refreshed. Like if the
computer had that page stored in Cache. So it just came back up without
the update.


No. I did a refresh. I dumped the cache, too. It was not until I
deleted the cookies that I was able to see the current price that was
showing with Chrome on the same computer and with Firefox on two others.

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Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
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Old May 31st, 2011, 03:23 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Janet Wilder
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Default Celebrity is setting cookies.

For those who doubt:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...shooter19.html
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Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
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Old May 31st, 2011, 03:24 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Janet Wilder
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Default Celebrity is setting cookies.

On 5/31/2011 7:44 AM, Stu wrote:
On Mon, 30 May 2011 23:13:28 -0500, Janet
wrote:

On 5/30/2011 8:04 PM, Charles wrote:
In raweb.com, Janet
wrote:

I posted this on CC this morning and thought I'd do it here. I believe
that Celebrity is setting cookies to prevent people from finding price
drops.

That makes no sense. They want people to know the price. You are saying
they are somehow setting a cookie directed at you that knows you
booked? I am unconvinced.


I believe that they have a counter that counts how many times an IP hits
the site where the cruise price is. Once an IP address hits that site a
certain number of times, it is assumed that that person is looking for
price drops. Why else would someone hit a site every day for months?

When their counter detects this, it sets a cookie with the price at the
time the counter is programmed to do it. The cookie is set to take you
to a screen with an old price.

It's not rocket science. Hotels and airlines do it.


No it's not rocket science, but neither is setting up your browser to clear the
cache and delete the cookies everytime you close it.


I delete the cache, but some cookies make surfing easier so I only
delete all cookies once a month or so.

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Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
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Old May 31st, 2011, 05:27 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Charles[_1_]
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Default Celebrity is setting cookies.

Janet Wilder wrote:
For those who doubt:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...shooter19.html


That does not really prove anything except the others have the same
conspiracy theory that you do. The prices do fluctuate because cruise
lines and airlines have a yield management system. And maybe if you keep
looking at a price they raise it because they think you are really
interested. I don't think they are trying to keep you from finding out
about a price drop. What you are seeing is likely only a byproduct of their
yield management system.

You can set up Firefox to only allow cookies for a session in preferences
so there will be no cookies just for a particular web site like Celebrity.
When you end the session the cookies will be deleted. I use Safari
primarily, which does not have that option but I accomplish the same thing
by using Private Browsing. Firefox also has Private Browsing so you could
use that also. I prefer Private Browsing because not only does it not save
the cookies, it does not cache the pages when you have it on.

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Charles
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Old May 31st, 2011, 07:39 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Chrissy Cruiser[_3_]
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Default Celebrity is setting cookies.

On Tue, 31 May 2011 09:23:35 -0500, Janet Wilder wrote:

For those who doubt:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/travel/2011648245_webtroubleshooter19.html


Been going on for ages. I caught MSC and can't remember who doing
the same thing in 2005.

Cookie Culler, Cookie Monster w/ FF and a good VPN

www.ibvpn.com

or Tor

https://www.torproject.org/download/download.html.en

end of problem.
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