Plane mishap

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:04:28 -0500, Sue Mullen
wrote:

We will be flying from NJ to Tampa in Jan. and there is no way we can
drive there. We are also talking about visiting our son in Portland,
Oregon in the spring, way too far to drive.

Could you drive to Virginia and take the AutoTrain down?

To get to Portland, Oregon, you could take a train to Toronto, across
Canada to Vancouver on The Canadian, and then a bus and train down to
Portland. It would take a while, but it would be a pleasant trip.

After my recent trip across the country I can no longer recommend Amtrak
for long distance east-west travel. The Coast Starlight is probably
still OK.

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:37:17 -0500, (Surfer E2468)
wrote:

Political correctness is they cannot weed out any one kind of person
that might look like a terrorist,

You are misinformed. They can and they do. There's no question that
the system could have worked, but didn't, in this particular case.

But they can't stop everyone who might possibly be a terrorist. No one
would be allowed to fly.

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:31:44 -0500, (Surfer E2468) wrote:

Was wondering how a restricted passenger got on a plane with the makings
of an explosive. hey made my husband remove his belt because the
buckle kept stopping him from going thru security. guess you have to be
a terrorist to make a flight without security. nothing like being
politicaly correct

What this will eventually lead to is no hand luggage and passengers will be required to
travel naked.

Gettamulla Tupya wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:31:44 -0500, (Surfer E2468) wrote:

Was wondering how a restricted passenger got on a plane with the makings
of an explosive. hey made my husband remove his belt because the
buckle kept stopping him from going thru security. guess you have to be
a terrorist to make a flight without security. nothing like being
politicaly correct

What this will eventually lead to is no hand luggage and passengers will be required to
travel naked.

Okay, there will be some flights I will not be on, and some
I may an effort to be on some others. Miami for spring break
for instance.

In article , Gettamulla
Tupya wrote:

What this will eventually lead to is no hand luggage and passengers
will be required to travel naked.

More likely they will drug everyone and stack passengers in the plane.
That way the airlines could carry more passengers per plane too.....

--
Charles

Sue Mullen wrote:


Charles wrote:
In article , Sue Mullen
wrote:

The report I heard wasn't clear, is the no bathroom, nothing on your
lap, nothing to read, no electronics etc on "all" flights or only on
international flights?

Will be bad enough sitting with nothing to do, but not using the
bathrooms could be a huge problem. Maybe we all need to wear depends
to fly.

It appears for now that it is international flights. However those and
other measures might be applied randomly to other flights.

Thanks, just about what I thought. Flying is getting to be harder and
harder now.

sue

And the sad part is that it will be harder and harder for the average
passenger, but somehow the terrorists will still be able to get bad
stuff through security.

Marcia

Thanks, just about what I thought. Flying is getting to be harder and
harder now.

sue

Yes, it's getting harder and harder for the avergage traveler - Maybe it's
about time we forget political correctness and make it harder for the
terrorists.

Jack Hamilton wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:04:28 -0500, Sue Mullen
wrote:

We will be flying from NJ to Tampa in Jan. and there is no way we can
drive there. We are also talking about visiting our son in Portland,
Oregon in the spring, way too far to drive.

Could you drive to Virginia and take the AutoTrain down?

To get to Portland, Oregon, you could take a train to Toronto, across
Canada to Vancouver on The Canadian, and then a bus and train down to
Portland. It would take a while, but it would be a pleasant trip.

Train doesn't work for us for many reasons and that includes the fact
that Kevin is still working full time and the train would take much
longer then a plane.

sue

This man WAS ON THE RESTRICTED LIST,so how come he was allowed thru
security and even on the plane.





cruise lover(~~~~~)






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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:28:01 -0500, (Surfer E2468)
wrote:

This man WAS ON THE RESTRICTED LIST,so how come he was allowed thru
security and even on the plane.

There were lots of problems with the security. The article I read said
that there were several security checks that would have found the stuff
he was carrying, but the Amsterdam airport didn't do any of them.

There are various forms of restricted lists, and he was on the least
stringent of them. Even so, there is no excuse for not putting him
through at least as many safety checks as we had flying to Europe last
month.