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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
On 07/06/2014 12:17, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 11:15:30 +0100, "JohnT" wrote: I have travelled into Newcastle airport many times, connecting at Schiphol, and I know that the security at the arrival airport isn't all visible. All luggage is scanned before being placed on the delivery carousel and passport examination nowadays is quite rigorous. Passengers originating in Amsterdam tend to get more attention from the UK Border Agency than do transfer passengers. Duh I was talking about travelling to Newcastle by ferry from IJmuiden. I assumed that Mike was too. No, Schipol to Gatwick. Customs are near invisible at Hull and Newcastle ferry terminals, they occasionally stop a van and search it. The immigration staff are friendly and always polite. |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
Bill wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 15:10:27 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: Surreyman wrote: On Friday, June 6, 2014 8:45:21 AM UTC+1, Tim C. wrote: On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:34:26 +0200, Martin wrote in post : : The queues aren't unique to the USA. We took a charter flight from Schiphol where queues extended outside the airport building, in this case there were not enough check in staff. Trying to get through Passport control at Stansted is a pain. -- Tim C. Linz, Austria. We use smaller provincial airports wherever possible these days, such as Southampton - they often have extensive itineraries and queues are virtually non-existent! If I ever visit the UK again, I'll use anything but LHR! I hear Manchester is civilized. Heathrow is a lot better these days, especially if you fly with BA and use terminal 5... BA is now tops on my „avoid at all costs" list. They mucked up the return half of an e- ticket, changing both my name and my sex and it took several people and altogether too much time to deal with. Airline ticket always smash my double last name together, but some idiot took it apart and deleted my first name so my eticket was in their computer with a male name. This was the RETURN half! I was still grumbling about it when I went through pass control at O'Hare, and the official there laughed and said BA fouled things up often! Manchester is nice, clean but busy with holiday charters. So it gets noisy and full of people. The best provincial airport we've flown from is Leeds/Bradford. BA have a Heathrow shuttle flying into there several times a day. BA? Horrors -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
S Viemeister wrote:
On 6/6/2014 11:10 AM, Erilar wrote: If I ever visit the UK again, I'll use anything but LHR! I hear Manchester is civilized. I find Edinburgh and Glasgow _much_ less unpleasant than Heathrow. The year I went to Orkney I flew to Aberdeen via Copenhagen, spent a day in Scotland, then flew on to Kirkwall. 8-) -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 13:17:47 +0200, Martin wrote:
Customs are near invisible at Hull But not passport control for foot passengers, which is pretty strict these days, and you have to queue to get through them. |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
On 6/7/2014 9:41 AM, Erilar wrote:
S Viemeister wrote: On 6/6/2014 11:10 AM, Erilar wrote: If I ever visit the UK again, I'll use anything but LHR! I hear Manchester is civilized. I find Edinburgh and Glasgow _much_ less unpleasant than Heathrow. The year I went to Orkney I flew to Aberdeen via Copenhagen, spent a day in Scotland, then flew on to Kirkwall. 8-) Where did you start from in your Aberdeen trip? I once went to London via Frankfurt from New York but that was not my choice but that of the cut-rate airline, which used the excuse of fog in London not to stop there even if I was able to get an almost immediate flight from Frankfurt to Heath Row. The carrier has gone now gone now but I think it was World Airways. -- Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD) Extraneous "not." in Reply To. |
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James Silverton wrote:
On 6/7/2014 9:41 AM, Erilar wrote: S Viemeister wrote: On 6/6/2014 11:10 AM, Erilar wrote: If I ever visit the UK again, I'll use anything but LHR! I hear Manchester is civilized. I find Edinburgh and Glasgow _much_ less unpleasant than Heathrow. The year I went to Orkney I flew to Aberdeen via Copenhagen, spent a day in Scotland, then flew on to Kirkwall. 8-) Where did you start from in your Aberdeen trip? I once went to London via Frankfurt from New York but that was not my choice but that of the cut-rate airline, which used the excuse of fog in London not to stop there even if I was able to get an almost immediate flight from Frankfurt to Heath Row. The carrier has gone now gone now but I think it was World Airways. SAS from Chicago to Copenhagen, then Aberdeen. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
On 07/06/2014 22:40, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 13:59:54 +0100, Mike O'Sullivan wrote: On 07/06/2014 12:17, Martin wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 11:15:30 +0100, "JohnT" wrote: I have travelled into Newcastle airport many times, connecting at Schiphol, and I know that the security at the arrival airport isn't all visible. All luggage is scanned before being placed on the delivery carousel and passport examination nowadays is quite rigorous. Passengers originating in Amsterdam tend to get more attention from the UK Border Agency than do transfer passengers. Duh I was talking about travelling to Newcastle by ferry from IJmuiden. I assumed that Mike was too. No, Schipol to Gatwick. I mixed up the OP, it was Frank. Sorry, Mike. Geen probleem! |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
"Erilar" wrote in message ... Bill wrote: BA is now tops on my „avoid at all costs" list. They mucked up the return half of an e- ticket, changing both my name and my sex and it took several people and altogether too much time to deal with. Airline ticket always smash my double last name together, but some idiot took it apart and deleted my first name so my eticket was in their computer with a male name. This was the RETURN half! I was still grumbling about it when I went through pass control at O'Hare, and the official there laughed and said BA fouled things up often! Manchester is nice, clean but busy with holiday charters. So it gets noisy and full of people. The best provincial airport we've flown from is Leeds/Bradford. BA have a Heathrow shuttle flying into there several times a day. BA? Horrors I flew BA, long and short haul, at least 500 times and they got it spectacularly wrong twice. Which isn't a bad record. And they tried really hard to sort out problems when they did arise. I find it very difficult to comprehend how the RETURN half of an e-ticket can be "mucked up". An e-ticket is just a record on a computer system - Amadeus in the case of BA - and it has no physical existence. It doesn't have two halfs. Perhaps Erilar should try a few flights on Spirit Airlines in the USA or on Ryanair in Europe. She may then have some benchmark for comparison. -- JohnT |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
On Sun, 08 Jun 2014 08:42:52 +0200, Martin wrote:
BA is now tops on my „avoid at all costs" list. They mucked up the return half of an e- ticket, changing both my name and my sex and it took several people and altogether too much time to deal with. Airline ticket always smash my double last name together, but some idiot took it apart and deleted my first name so my eticket was in their computer with a male name. This was the RETURN half! I was still grumbling about it when I went through pass control at O'Hare, and the official there laughed and said BA fouled things up often! You are still grumbling about it now. I often travelled with BA, I never had a problem, I have, a decade ago the people in economy were treated as cattle, but they're a lot better now they've got rid of most of their old cabin crew and are employing enthusiastic youngsters. Manchester is nice, clean but busy with holiday charters. So it gets noisy and full of people. The best provincial airport we've flown from is Leeds/Bradford. One of the worst to land at in a storm. See youtube for examples. I've landed in one, it was pretty frightening, but we did land safely. I don't think anyone has crashed there in a storm yet... |
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US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'
On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 09:30:02 +0100, "JohnT"
wrote: I find it very difficult to comprehend how the RETURN half of an e-ticket can be "mucked up". They did it to me this year. I booked by phone late at night from the UK but via their 'out of hours' Indian call center and the credit card transaction was done in a bulk process transaction later that night. The bank, for reasons never disclosed, decided that the transaction was possibly fraudulent, which it wasn't, but didn't get in touch with me for 48 hours. When my electronic ticket arrived the next day only the outward leg had been confirmed. The whole mess took about a week and ten hours on the phone to sort out, and ended with some compensation from the bank and a confirmed ticket both ways... It looks like BA's ticketing system sometimes issues a return ticket with no return leg specified if there's some sort of irregularity with the payment. |
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