NW planning to use A330s trans-pacific

Richard Anderson, the head of NW Airlines stated the airline will
eventually retire its 747-200 fleet and replace these a/c with A330s on
its trans-Pacific service.

I think NW would be the first airline ever to use A330s for scheduled
trans-Pacific service.

Not the Karl Orff wrote:
Richard Anderson, the head of NW Airlines stated the airline will
eventually retire its 747-200 fleet and replace these a/c with A330s on
its trans-Pacific service.

Northwest's trans-pac is mostly limited to flights to Japan, not exactly
extra-long range.

I think NW would be the first airline ever to use A330s for scheduled
trans-Pacific service.

Canada 3000 used them to serve Hawaii, Fiji and Australia (and any islands in
between, depending on winds). Towards the end, it was akin to scheduled service.

In article , Twin Gonads
wrote:

Not the Karl Orff wrote:
Richard Anderson, the head of NW Airlines stated the airline will
eventually retire its 747-200 fleet and replace these a/c with A330s on
its trans-Pacific service.

Northwest's trans-pac is mostly limited to flights to Japan, not exactly
extra-long range.

No, but still the 1st regular A330 non-stop trans-pacific scheduled
service (well, then again ANC-eastern Siberia across the Bering would
count by that definition)?

I think NW would be the first airline ever to use A330s for scheduled
trans-Pacific service.

Canada 3000 used them to serve Hawaii, Fiji and Australia (and any islands in
between, depending on winds). Towards the end, it was akin to scheduled
service.

Not trans-pacific (as in cross) per se since the 2T flights stopped in
HNL first (otherwise TS would have been one of the first and CX and
whoever else operates A330 around the rim) and, as you said, NAN,
Raratonga and/or some others before getting to Australia. 2T did
operate 757s on that trans-Pacific route too.

In article ,
Ian wrote:

I suspect they'll be used more within Asia, as they have a modern
fleet of 744's covering much of their Tokyo flights.

Don;t think NW will leave the 330s for intra-Asia flights like the A320s
and 757s are currently (due to traffic declines). They'll probably be
used on the thinner U.S.-NRT routes or maybe supplement BKK-NRT (always
oversold with a 744, it seems).

"Not the Karl Orff" wrote in message
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In article ,
Ian wrote:

I suspect they'll be used more within Asia, as they have a modern
fleet of 744's covering much of their Tokyo flights.

Don;t think NW will leave the 330s for intra-Asia flights like the A320s
and 757s are currently (due to traffic declines). They'll probably be
used on the thinner U.S.-NRT routes or maybe supplement BKK-NRT (always
oversold with a 744, it seems)

Yeah, like the trans-pacific routes that NW is flying the 742's right now,
such as HNL-NRT & SEA-NRT. Which brings us back to the original point.

In article et,
"Blake S" wrote:

"Not the Karl Orff" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Ian wrote:

I suspect they'll be used more within Asia, as they have a modern
fleet of 744's covering much of their Tokyo flights.

Don;t think NW will leave the 330s for intra-Asia flights like the A320s
and 757s are currently (due to traffic declines). They'll probably be
used on the thinner U.S.-NRT routes or maybe supplement BKK-NRT (always
oversold with a 744, it seems)

Yeah, like the trans-pacific routes that NW is flying the 742's right now,
such as HNL-NRT & SEA-NRT. Which brings us back to the original point.

NW also flies SEA-NRT and v-v n/s with a normally-configured 742 (low
density). The HNL-NRT flights are usually on 742s configured for "beach
market" and are high density (smaller BC). SEA-HNL last time I checked
was operated by DC-10s.

Ian wrote:

I suspect they'll be used more within Asia, as they have a modern
fleet of 744's covering much of their Tokyo flights.

Doesn't the 330 have the range to do Detroit-Tokyo ? If so, NW could put its
330s to Tokyo.

How many 744s does NW have ?
How many 742 are still in use by NW ?

My daughter travelled on a 'modern' NW 747-200 !!


"Ian" wrote in message
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I suspect they'll be used more within Asia, as they have a modern
fleet of 744's covering much of their Tokyo flights.


On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:31:51 GMT, Not the Karl Orff
wrote:

In article , Twin Gonads
wrote:

Not the Karl Orff wrote:
Richard Anderson, the head of NW Airlines stated the airline will
eventually retire its 747-200 fleet and replace these a/c with A330s
on
its trans-Pacific service.

Northwest's trans-pac is mostly limited to flights to Japan, not
exactly
extra-long range.

No, but still the 1st regular A330 non-stop trans-pacific scheduled
service (well, then again ANC-eastern Siberia across the Bering would
count by that definition)?

I think NW would be the first airline ever to use A330s for scheduled
trans-Pacific service.

Canada 3000 used them to serve Hawaii, Fiji and Australia (and any
islands in
between, depending on winds). Towards the end, it was akin to scheduled
service.

Not trans-pacific (as in cross) per se since the 2T flights stopped in
HNL first (otherwise TS would have been one of the first and CX and
whoever else operates A330 around the rim) and, as you said, NAN,
Raratonga and/or some others before getting to Australia. 2T did
operate 757s on that trans-Pacific route too.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:35:59 -0400, Flapping Labias
wrote:

Ian wrote:

I suspect they'll be used more within Asia, as they have a modern
fleet of 744's covering much of their Tokyo flights.

Doesn't the 330 have the range to do Detroit-Tokyo ? If so, NW could put its
330s to Tokyo.

How many 744s does NW have ?

IIRC, 14.

How many 742 are still in use by NW ?

A lot of them.

In article ,
scott wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:35:59 -0400, Flapping Labias
wrote:

Ian wrote:

I suspect they'll be used more within Asia, as they have a modern
fleet of 744's covering much of their Tokyo flights.

Doesn't the 330 have the range to do Detroit-Tokyo ? If so, NW could put its
330s to Tokyo.

How many 744s does NW have ?

IIRC, 14.

How many 742 are still in use by NW ?

A lot of them.

Starting to decline. A similar number to 744s now? NW used to have
fleet size on its old website but seems ot have eliminated it witht he
revamp of a month ago.