Hindus ask Denmark to stop Roma deportations

Hindus ask Denmark to stop Roma deportations
July 16, 2010

Hindus are asking for immediate end to reportedly forcible mass
deportations of Roma from Denmark.

Hindu statesman Rajan Zed, in a statement in Nevada (USA) today, said
that instead of cracking down and raids on minority Roma brothers and
sisters and stereotyped approach, Denmark should come up with a
comprehensive strategy to rehabilitate them and make them productive
partners of the community.

Were not Roma Europeans? Was freedom of travel anywhere in European
Union for all Europeans or it was just for “Europeans minus Roma”?
Roma had reportedly been in Europe since ninth century CE, how long
more they had to reside in Europe to prove that they were “real and
equal” Europeans like any other, Zed, who is President of Universal
Society of Hinduism, asked.

This reported maltreatment of Roma in Denmark was simply inhuman and
outside even European Union norms and should end, Rajan Zed argued.

Europe’s most persecuted and discriminated community, Roma were
reportedly facing apartheid conditions in Europe. Roma reportedly
regularly faced social exclusion, racism, substandard education,
hostility, joblessness, rampant illness, inadequate housing, lower
life expectancy, unrest, living on desperate margins, stereotypes,
mistrust, rights violations, discrimination, marginalization,
appalling living conditions, prejudice, human rights abuse, etc., Zed
pointed out.

Rajan Zed stressed that Danish National Church (Folkekirken), which
represented about 90 percent of the Danes, should also come out in
support of the cause of this distinct ethnic and cultural group of
Roma, because religion taught us to help the helpless.

Denmark is rated among nations with best quality of life, highest per
capita income, and low unemployment. Its literacy rate is 100% and its
hydrocarbon-rich economy is reported to be booming.

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vorange wrote:
Hindus ask Denmark to stop Roma deportations
July 16, 2010

Hindus are asking for immediate end to reportedly forcible mass
deportations of Roma from Denmark.

What is/are "Roma"? One might equate "Roma" with "Romany" (i.e.
gypsies) but in that case why would Hindus be involved?

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:20:12 -0700,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:



vorange wrote:
Hindus ask Denmark to stop Roma deportations
July 16, 2010

Hindus are asking for immediate end to reportedly forcible mass
deportations of Roma from Denmark.

What is/are "Roma"? One might equate "Roma" with "Romany" (i.e.
gypsies) but in that case why would Hindus be involved?

Google is your friend:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History..._Romani_people

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Interesting, to what does the article point in terms of actual events in
denmark?

Would you say they are perhaps the dalits of europe?

On 26/07/10 01:20, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:


vorange wrote:
Hindus ask Denmark to stop Roma deportations
July 16, 2010

Hindus are asking for immediate end to reportedly forcible mass
deportations of Roma from Denmark.

What is/are "Roma"? One might equate "Roma" with "Romany" (i.e.
gypsies) but in that case why would Hindus be involved?

and why cross post to so many groups?

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
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vorange wrote:
Hindus ask Denmark to stop Roma deportations
July 16, 2010

Hindus are asking for immediate end to reportedly forcible mass
deportations of Roma from Denmark.

What is/are "Roma"? One might equate "Roma" with "Romany" (i.e. gypsies)
but in that case why would Hindus be involved?

In this case the 'mass deportations' involved 23 individuals
who were in the county illegally and implicated in criminal activity.
Rather than imprison them in Denmark the authorities sent them
back to their home countries.

wrote:
Interesting, to what does the article point in terms of actual events in
denmark?

Would you say they are perhaps the dalits of europe?

The Roma have had a hard time in former socialist countries, i.e.
Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Czech Republic, etc. during socialism. They
were considered to be the pariah and were effectively denied of
education and any measures to make their life better. Now these
countries are just happy to let the Roma leave so that they would not
have to be dealt with. These people now use the possibility to travel to
better off EU countries to work in menial jobs, prostitution or just
beg. Nordic countries not used to beggars for ages are trying to do
something, but with mixed feelings. Finland for example used to deport
these people by charter flights back to their home countries to
Slovakia, Romania, etc. but as they are EU citizens they return and
deportation has been stopped as useless. As long as crime is not
involved the governments can't do anything. It's hard to determine how
much human traficking is involved, but for sure it plays a role.

The far right use the existence of these migrants as a tool for their
own objectives and generally the left wants to help them in getting
settled mostly in their own countries. As money is a big question the
general feeling is turning against these migrants and their problems,
begging on the streets, prostitution, petty crimes. In Finland begging
is being made illegal so that these people could be deported legally.
Now that even Hindu politicians are showing interest the question turns
more and more complex. After all, these people came originally from
India a few hundred years ago, but are now EU citizens.

Good ideas are welcome.

"As money is a big question the general feeling is turning against these
migrants and their problems, begging on the streets, prostitution, petty
crimes. In Finland begging is being made illegal so that these people
could be deported legally. Now that even Hindu politicians are showing
interest the question turns more and more complex. After all, these
people came originally from India a few hundred years ago, but are now
EU citizens."

So the reason for deportation are civil and legal not ethnic in and of
themselves. The nordic countries have accepted many ethnic groups
clearly so another factor had to be at work.

The rom, or gypsies started on their western migration perhaps as long
as 1500 years ago from s. asia. They went not only west into europe but
into central asia also. It is a clear example of a western movement of
an indueuropian language moving counter the movemnt in history.

In europe their religion tends to be that of the region in which they
reside so any support for their plight of clear oppression in many
places has nothing to concern a hindu "authorty" then any oppression
anywhere. Is this "authority" speaking of oppression in africa or even
in s. asia?

Martin wrote:
On 26/07/10 01:20, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:

vorange wrote:
Hindus ask Denmark to stop Roma deportations
July 16, 2010

Hindus are asking for immediate end to reportedly forcible mass
deportations of Roma from Denmark.
What is/are "Roma"? One might equate "Roma" with "Romany" (i.e.
gypsies) but in that case why would Hindus be involved?

and why cross post to so many groups?

In hopes of an answer by the original poster?

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" a écrit dans le
message de groupe de discussion : ...


vorange wrote:
Hindus ask Denmark to stop Roma deportations
July 16, 2010

Hindus are asking for immediate end to reportedly forcible mass
deportations of Roma from Denmark.

What is/are "Roma"? One might equate "Roma" with "Romany" (i.e. gypsies)
but in that case why would Hindus be involved?