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Old August 18th, 2010, 05:13 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british
RoddNSue
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Default Avoid Alberta Campaign Goes Worldwide

The international campaign to disourage travellers from visiting
Alberta Canada is now advising potential tourists in London England.

Pictures of the terrible situation at the Alberta oilsands are but
part of the foul picture.

Mention that Edmonton Alberta is the rime capital for Canada, with all
the murders, rapes, robberies, theft of travellers' cars and trailers
where they lose everything.

Quite apart from the expensive 50 km. trip to Edmonton from the Leduc
airport because the mayor and some developers want to make millions by
closing the city center airport.

Just a few reasons to AVOID ALBERTA.

Save your money and visit some of the states in Northern USA.
Your money will go much further, since prices in USA are much
lower than in price-fixing Canada!
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Old August 18th, 2010, 05:37 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british
Bert Hyman
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Default Avoid Alberta Campaign Goes Worldwide

In news wrote:

Mention that Edmonton Alberta is the rime capital for Canada


Hey! I'm sure that Alberta's not the only place with bad weather.

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Old August 19th, 2010, 02:34 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty
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Default Avoid "Runge" Campaign Goes Worldwide...!!!

On Aug 18, 10:37*am, Bert Hyman wrote:
Innews
wrote:
Mention that Edmonton Alberta is the rime capital for Canada


Hey! I'm sure that Alberta's not the only place with bad weather.



Hehe...try the "weather" in Runge's banlieu....


LOL...

--
Best
Greg

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Old August 19th, 2010, 06:43 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty
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hoho greg morrow the moron, back on his connexion thanks to his pension

""Ring For Durex"" a écrit dans le message de
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On Aug 18, 10:37 am, Bert Hyman wrote:
Innews
wrote:
Mention that Edmonton Alberta is the rime capital for Canada


Hey! I'm sure that Alberta's not the only place with bad weather.



Hehe...try the "weather" in Runge's banlieu....


LOL...

--
Best
Greg

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Old August 19th, 2010, 05:19 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british
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Default Avoid Alberta Campaign Goes Worldwide

In message RoddNSue
was claimed to have wrote:

The international campaign to disourage travellers from visiting
Alberta Canada is now advising potential tourists in London England.

Pictures of the terrible situation at the Alberta oilsands are but
part of the foul picture.


Speaking as a native Albertan, I can assure you that us Albertans would
rather have the oil sands than tourist dollars from idiots whining about
fossil fuels while supporting us with your dollars.

Free clue: if you're not a fossil fuel consumer, you're not going to be
a tourist anyway.

Seriously, where would you like to get the oil? From the middle east?
Maybe of the Gulf of Mexico? Tanker it in from Alaska?
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Old August 19th, 2010, 06:58 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british
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Default Avoid Alberta Campaign Goes Worldwide

On 19/08/10 9:19 AM, DevilsPGD wrote:
In RoddNSue
was claimed to have wrote:

The international campaign to disourage travellers from visiting
Alberta Canada is now advising potential tourists in London England.

Pictures of the terrible situation at the Alberta oilsands are but
part of the foul picture.


Speaking as a native Albertan, I can assure you that us Albertans would
rather have the oil sands than tourist dollars from idiots whining about
fossil fuels while supporting us with your dollars.

Free clue: if you're not a fossil fuel consumer, you're not going to be
a tourist anyway.

Seriously, where would you like to get the oil? From the middle east?
Maybe of the Gulf of Mexico? Tanker it in from Alaska?


Alberta is a great place to visit. Banff, Jasper, and of course the
Royal Tyrrell Museum near Drumheller.

Never been to Edmonton, as I could care less about the largest mall in
North America.

Still, extracting oil from the oil sands has got to be the most insane
way to obtain low quality oil at tremendous costs both for the fuel
itself, and for the environment. If the producer nations of high quality
crude would come to their senses, and do what's best for their own long
term economic interests, oil would be priced at a level where the oil
sands would be abandoned, around $50 a barrel.
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Old August 19th, 2010, 11:42 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british
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Default Avoid Alberta Campaign Goes Worldwide

In message SMS
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On 19/08/10 9:19 AM, DevilsPGD wrote:
In RoddNSue
was claimed to have wrote:

The international campaign to disourage travellers from visiting
Alberta Canada is now advising potential tourists in London England.

Pictures of the terrible situation at the Alberta oilsands are but
part of the foul picture.


Speaking as a native Albertan, I can assure you that us Albertans would
rather have the oil sands than tourist dollars from idiots whining about
fossil fuels while supporting us with your dollars.

Free clue: if you're not a fossil fuel consumer, you're not going to be
a tourist anyway.

Seriously, where would you like to get the oil? From the middle east?
Maybe of the Gulf of Mexico? Tanker it in from Alaska?


Alberta is a great place to visit. Banff, Jasper, and of course the
Royal Tyrrell Museum near Drumheller.


Yup.

Never been to Edmonton, as I could care less about the largest mall in
North America.


You could?

Personally, I couldn't care less about it.

Still, extracting oil from the oil sands has got to be the most insane
way to obtain low quality oil at tremendous costs both for the fuel
itself, and for the environment.


I'll see your oil sands and raise you one Gulf of Mexico.

If the producer nations of high quality
crude would come to their senses, and do what's best for their own long
term economic interests, oil would be priced at a level where the oil
sands would be abandoned, around $50 a barrel.


How would that make sense?

At $50/barrel consumption would increase, driving processing costs up
significantly which would result in significant investment in refineries
being needed, costing a lot of short-term revenue to build the
refineries now while simultaneously burning through their long-term
revenue generator.

Those with the ability to produce cheap oil are better off selling at
$80-$150/barrel and pocketing the difference without really caring about
the oil sands with their much higher production and processing overhead.

The biggest long-term threat to the large scale oil producers isn't
other oil, but rather, an alternative becoming cheaper (and worse, a
sustainable one)

Consider what would happen to oil if tomorrow someone announced a cheap,
sustainable/low-environmental-impact, high-capacity high-energy-density
(low weight:energy and size:energy ratio) battery; suddenly
inconsistently available solar, wave and wind farms could provide steady
reliable power. Not only could they do so to homes but also for cars
and trucks and Things That Go.

Sure, it would take a good long while for the world to change over to a
new energy source, but if we found a method of storing and transporting
energy with the energy density of fossil fuels the energy source
wouldn't matter and whatever was the cheapest source of the day would
rule. In other words, fossil fuels would end up directly competing with
every other energy source.

Short of a breakthrough, the demand for oil will never disappear so
there is little need to charge less than the market will support. As
supplies run low, the demand will increase and prices will to match,
oilsands (along with other more difficult to collect sources) will
become more economical with oil eventually becoming so expensive that
few can afford to use it and no one can afford to waste it, making
alternatives practical.

In the short term though, there is little value in selling below what
the market will support, at best you'll just delay the competition
oilsands brings and at a far higher cost than a bit of extra
competition.
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Old August 27th, 2010, 09:25 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Dee Silverman
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The oil, once obtained, is of high quality. it goes through a up-grader.
The oilsands, over a period of time, will use new techniques to ease the
environmental impact.

Before the oilsands where ever used to obtain oil, vast natural areas of
oil contaminated land in Alberta would result in coating and killing
birds if and when they landed in it. Nature and natural environment has
never been the soft sweet sound of romantic violins sunsets sometimes
evoke.

Insanity is drilling for oil deep in the gulf, within the territorial
waters of the USA, without proper safeguards. The cost per barrel from
that well will work out to be considerably more than any obtained from
any one of the oilsand projects.

ds

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Old September 2nd, 2010, 03:48 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Kenny McCormack[_2_]
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Default Avoid Alberta Campaign Goes Worldwide

In article ,
Dee Silverman wrote:
....
Insanity is drilling for oil deep in the gulf, within the territorial
waters of the USA, without proper safeguards. The cost per barrel from
that well will work out to be considerably more than any obtained from
any one of the oilsand projects.


I agree with your basic premise, but the fact is that BP won't lose any
money on the gulf deal. They will write off any losses.

Face it, nobody's going to allow the British teachers to suffer as a
result of the BP disaster.

--
"The anti-regulation business ethos is based on the charmingly naive notion
that people will not do unspeakable things for money." - Dana Carpender

Quoted by Paul Ciszek (pciszek at panix dot com). But what I want to know
is why is this diet/low-carb food author doing making pithy political/economic
statements?

Nevertheless, the above quote is dead-on, because, the thing is - business
in one breath tells us they don't need to be regulated (which is to say:
that they can morally self-regulate), then in the next breath tells us that
corporations are amoral entities which have no obligations to anyone except
their officers and shareholders, then in the next breath they tell us they
don't need to be regulated (that they can morally self-regulate) ...

 




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