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Apparently: "Hydra-Plane" On Very Wet Jamaican Runway Is Being Blamed



 
 
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Old December 24th, 2009, 01:47 AM posted to rec.travel.air
Robert Cohen
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Default Apparently: "Hydra-Plane" On Very Wet Jamaican Runway Is Being Blamed

ABC TV news tonight

One question: Do some airports have drain techniques a la storm-sewers
or whatever?

I wouldn't be flying any damn where if my wife didn't insist enjoying
life with pretzels or peanuts

I was crammed RT on a "Delta Connection," a smaller plane that
apparently isn't docked
in Atlanta--ya walk on tarmac as in yesteryear (I recall the 1950s)

It was smooth flying in calm sky though the Jackson-Hartsfield landing
wasn't perfection on the return leg

I'm fortunate to be where it's not snowing, not that there's anything
dangerous about flying in snow 'n ice 'n wind 'n rain
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Old December 24th, 2009, 08:05 AM posted to rec.travel.air
Graham Harrison[_3_]
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Default Apparently: "Hydra-Plane" On Very Wet Jamaican Runway Is Being Blamed


That's "Hydroplaning" or "Aquaplaning".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroplaning_%28tires%29
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Old December 25th, 2009, 02:40 AM posted to rec.travel.air
Robert Cohen
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Default Apparently: "Hydra-Plane" On Very Wet Jamaican Runway Is BeingBlamed

On Dec 24, 3:05*am, "Graham Harrison"
wrote:
That's "Hydroplaning" or "Aquaplaning".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroplaning_%28tires%29


Yeah, "hydro-," and the WIKI article is fairly explanatory, and so
imho when driving on unusually watery highways and streets, especially
try not to
be a speedy idiot, and if the cars behind ya obviously desire to go
faster, then I'll try to get out of their way by pulling off the road
when
and where it seems safe (to signal and) to turn-off

APPARENTLY, the landing was not close enough to the beginning of the
runway of reportedly 8,000+ feet, tho please don't take my
(mis) interpretation of the news as gospel
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Old December 27th, 2009, 02:54 AM posted to rec.travel.air
Robert Cohen
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Default Apparently: "Hydra-Plane" On Very Wet Jamaican Runway Is BeingBlamed

On Dec 24, 9:40*pm, Robert Cohen wrote:
On Dec 24, 3:05*am, "Graham Harrison"

wrote:
That's "Hydroplaning" or "Aquaplaning".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroplaning_%28tires%29


Yeah, "hydro-," and the WIKI article is fairly explanatory, and so
imho when driving on unusually watery highways and streets, especially
try not to
be a speedy idiot, and if the cars behind ya obviously desire to go
faster, then I'll try to get out of their way by pulling off the road
when
and where it seems safe (to signal and) to turn-off

*APPARENTLY, the landing was not close enough to the beginning of the
runway of reportedly 8,000+ feet, tho please don't take my
(mis) interpretation of the news as gospel


The Detroit incident yesterday demands intelligence coordination
internationally, because there seems to be one helluva flaw"fly" in
the ("3 ounces" of) ointment

Nigeria, Holland and/or Delta-Northwest should asap (as soon as
possible)
forward their passenger lists to an appropriate computer--if they do
not do such
an obvious security measure already
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Old December 27th, 2009, 10:11 AM posted to rec.travel.air
Graham Harrison[_3_]
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Default Apparently: "Hydra-Plane" On Very Wet Jamaican Runway Is Being Blamed


"Robert Cohen" wrote in message
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On Dec 24, 9:40 pm, Robert Cohen wrote:
On Dec 24, 3:05 am, "Graham Harrison"

wrote:
That's "Hydroplaning" or "Aquaplaning".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroplaning_%28tires%29


Yeah, "hydro-," and the WIKI article is fairly explanatory, and so
imho when driving on unusually watery highways and streets, especially
try not to
be a speedy idiot, and if the cars behind ya obviously desire to go
faster, then I'll try to get out of their way by pulling off the road
when
and where it seems safe (to signal and) to turn-off

APPARENTLY, the landing was not close enough to the beginning of the
runway of reportedly 8,000+ feet, tho please don't take my
(mis) interpretation of the news as gospel


The Detroit incident yesterday demands intelligence coordination
internationally, because there seems to be one helluva flaw"fly" in
the ("3 ounces" of) ointment

Nigeria, Holland and/or Delta-Northwest should asap (as soon as
possible)
forward their passenger lists to an appropriate computer--if they do
not do such
an obvious security measure already

..................

Quite why we're still in the same thread I'm not sure.

Anyway...

Every airline (and even private planes) MUST submit a passenger list to
Homeland Security. They are not allowed to depart a non-US point until
Homeland Security say "yes, that's OK". Therefore they already do what you
are suggesting. Trouble is, as I understand it, although this gentleman
was "of interest" he

1) has a US visa
2) is not on any "no fly" list

therefore Homeland Security said "yes".

Much of the TSA response about extra security is little more than window
dressing and will harm the image of the USA abroad and damage the US economy
because tourists, in particular but businessmen as well, will simply not be
prepared to undergo the additional "security".

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Old December 27th, 2009, 12:26 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Kurt Ullman
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Default Apparently: "Hydra-Plane" On Very Wet Jamaican Runway Is Being Blamed

In article ,
"Graham Harrison" wrote:

Much of the TSA response about extra security is little more than window
dressing and will harm the image of the USA abroad and damage the US economy
because tourists, in particular but businessmen as well, will simply not be
prepared to undergo the additional "security".


ANd more damage to the airline industry. If the drive is less than 8
hours, I already won't fly. Period.

--
To find that place where the rats don't race
and the phones don't ring at all.
If once, you've slept on an island.
Scott Kirby "If once you've slept on an island"

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Old December 27th, 2009, 04:26 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Robert Cohen
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Default Apparently: "Hydra-Plane" On Very Wet Jamaican Runway Is BeingBlamed

On Dec 27, 7:26*am, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,
*"Graham Harrison" wrote:

Much of the TSA response about extra security is little more than window
dressing and will harm the image of the USA abroad and damage the US economy
because tourists, in particular but businessmen as well, will simply not be
prepared to undergo the additional "security".


* ANd more damage to the airline industry. If the drive is less than 8
hours, I already won't fly. Period.

--
To find that place where the rats don't race
and the phones don't ring at all.
If once, you've slept on an island.
* * Scott Kirby "If once you've slept on an isl



The religious fanatic mass-murder-wannabe is on a list and yet the
computers still could not match
him to an active passenger list !

That's a definition of catch 22, absurdity

What in the hell is going on? public relations by annoying
postulations (semi phony reassurance)

the intelligence people don't want to generally publicly reveal
suspect names,
so thus automatically by one-way submissions
try to match passenger names, whatevers, addressses, irises
(biotech) ...




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Old December 28th, 2009, 12:39 AM posted to rec.travel.air
Robert Cohen
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Default Apparently: "Hydra-Plane" On Very Wet Jamaican Runway Is BeingBlamed

On Dec 27, 11:26*am, Robert Cohen wrote:
On Dec 27, 7:26*am, Kurt Ullman wrote:



In article ,
*"Graham Harrison" wrote:


Much of the TSA response about extra security is little more than window
dressing and will harm the image of the USA abroad and damage the US economy
because tourists, in particular but businessmen as well, will simply not be
prepared to undergo the additional "security".


* ANd more damage to the airline industry. If the drive is less than 8
hours, I already won't fly. Period.


--
To find that place where the rats don't race
and the phones don't ring at all.
If once, you've slept on an island.
* * Scott Kirby "If once you've slept on an isl


The religious fanatic mass-murder-wannabe is on a list and yet the
computers still could not match
him to an active passenger list !

That's a definition of catch 22, absurdity

What in the hell is going on? public relations by annoying
postulations (semi phony reassurance)

*the intelligence people don't want to generally publicly reveal
suspect names,
*so thus automatically by one-way submissions
try to match passenger names, whatevers, addressses, irises
(biotech) ...


It is reported tonight on NBC TV News, that the authorities had
apparently discounted the risk,
despite the prominent father's fear about the son, whom had newly used
the term "sacrifice," had been
duly communicated directly to U.S.authorities, however, that caveat
'was not criteria enough' for the decision not
to overtly hassle the passenger

Maybe they would've if he were of an arbitrary number, and however
they are deciding

Meanwhile: The "explosive powder" was not "bird-dogged" by odor nor
sensed by sensitive machine

I have seen dogs that by smell diagnose cancer (on tv)

I must observe the story is similar enough to the Fort Hood allegation








 




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