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Old December 14th, 2008, 02:15 PM posted to rec.travel.air
PeterOut
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Default BWI-AKL Late January. Looking for Cheapest Fare

I was wondering if someone could tell me how to get the lowest fare
from BWI to AKL (return) in late January. I was hoping for something
US$1500 but have only been able to find US$2000.

Many thanks in advance,
Peter.
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Old December 14th, 2008, 06:39 PM posted to rec.travel.air
John Levine
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Default BWI-AKL Late January. Looking for Cheapest Fare

PeterOut wrote:
I was wondering if someone could tell me how to get the lowest fare
from BWI to AKL (return) in late January. I was hoping for something
US$1500 but have only been able to find US$2000.


The always informative itasoftware says that Air NZ has a $1076 round
trip from SFO or LAX starting on the 29th. It also says that NW has
$227 connections on those dates BWI-LAX with schedules that match up
reasonably well with the NZ flights.

R's,
John





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Old December 15th, 2008, 07:52 AM posted to rec.travel.air
Graham Harrison[_3_]
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Default BWI-AKL Late January. Looking for Cheapest Fare


"John Levine" wrote in message
...
PeterOut wrote:
I was wondering if someone could tell me how to get the lowest fare
from BWI to AKL (return) in late January. I was hoping for something
US$1500 but have only been able to find US$2000.


The always informative itasoftware says that Air NZ has a $1076 round
trip from SFO or LAX starting on the 29th. It also says that NW has
$227 connections on those dates BWI-LAX with schedules that match up
reasonably well with the NZ flights.

R's,
John






ITA is very clever but they fail to warn about deals like this. You
usually end up buying 2 separate tickets (in this case BWI/SFO/BWI and
SFO/AKL/SFO). Each ticket is a separate contract which means it is your
responsibility to check in for each flight on time. If NW fail to deliver
you to SFO in time to check in for ANZ they (ANZ) would treat you just like
someone who was starting their journey at SFO and missed it - you might have
to buy a new ticket. At a simpler level it means no through check in so
you have to collect your bag, exit to landside, check in, go through
security etc.

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Old December 15th, 2008, 02:03 PM posted to rec.travel.air
John Levine
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Default BWI-AKL Late January. Looking for Cheapest Fare

[ BWI - AKL for $1500 ? ]

The always informative itasoftware says that Air NZ has a $1076 round
trip from SFO or LAX starting on the 29th. It also says that NW has
$227 connections on those dates BWI-LAX with schedules that match up
reasonably well with the NZ flights.


ITA is very clever but they fail to warn about deals like this. You
usually end up buying 2 separate tickets (in this case BWI/SFO/BWI and
SFO/AKL/SFO). Each ticket is a separate contract which means it is your
responsibility to check in for each flight on time. If NW fail to deliver
you to SFO in time to check in for ANZ they (ANZ) would treat you just like
someone who was starting their journey at SFO and missed it - you might have
to buy a new ticket. At a simpler level it means no through check in so
you have to collect your bag, exit to landside, check in, go through
security etc.


It's true, if you miss your connection, you have a problem, although I
don't think that in practice you're much better off with a nominal
online connection. There's only one flight a day SFO-AKL so if you
miss it, you lose either way, come back tomorrow. There's two or three
LAX-AKL, but NZ tends to be reasonable and if you miss the earlier one
and ask nicely, they'll probably put you on one a later one.

LAX and SFO are not Heathrow, and airside transfer basically doesn't
exist. You have to go take the tram (SFO) or bus (LAX) between
terminals and go through security again regardless. Unless you take
an enormous amount of luggage, rechecking your bags isn't a lot of
additional hassle. I have connected and flown NZ out of both SFO and
LAX so I speak from experience.

I agree that it would be a good idea to leave plenty of time for the
domestic - int'l connection, but there are schedules that do that.
Since it's a legit interline connection, it might be worth paying a
travel agent $30 or whatever to do both flights on one ticket so you
can at least try to check your bags through.

R's,
John



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Old December 15th, 2008, 05:48 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Graham Harrison[_3_]
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Default BWI-AKL Late January. Looking for Cheapest Fare


"John Levine" wrote in message
...
[ BWI - AKL for $1500 ? ]

The always informative itasoftware says that Air NZ has a $1076 round
trip from SFO or LAX starting on the 29th. It also says that NW has
$227 connections on those dates BWI-LAX with schedules that match up
reasonably well with the NZ flights.


ITA is very clever but they fail to warn about deals like this. You
usually end up buying 2 separate tickets (in this case BWI/SFO/BWI and
SFO/AKL/SFO). Each ticket is a separate contract which means it is your
responsibility to check in for each flight on time. If NW fail to
deliver
you to SFO in time to check in for ANZ they (ANZ) would treat you just
like
someone who was starting their journey at SFO and missed it - you might
have
to buy a new ticket. At a simpler level it means no through check in so
you have to collect your bag, exit to landside, check in, go through
security etc.


It's true, if you miss your connection, you have a problem, although I
don't think that in practice you're much better off with a nominal
online connection. There's only one flight a day SFO-AKL so if you
miss it, you lose either way, come back tomorrow. There's two or three
LAX-AKL, but NZ tends to be reasonable and if you miss the earlier one
and ask nicely, they'll probably put you on one a later one.

LAX and SFO are not Heathrow, and airside transfer basically doesn't
exist. You have to go take the tram (SFO) or bus (LAX) between
terminals and go through security again regardless. Unless you take
an enormous amount of luggage, rechecking your bags isn't a lot of
additional hassle. I have connected and flown NZ out of both SFO and
LAX so I speak from experience.

I agree that it would be a good idea to leave plenty of time for the
domestic - int'l connection, but there are schedules that do that.
Since it's a legit interline connection, it might be worth paying a
travel agent $30 or whatever to do both flights on one ticket so you
can at least try to check your bags through.

R's,
John




I believe you are being far too relaxed and even misleading. The
connection can be online or offline and, provided the transaction is on one
ticket you have various safeguards if a flight is late. In the end it
boils down to the delivering carrier being responsible for finding you an
alternative if you are delayed by them. That can mean sending you on the
same flight from LAX to AKL the next day but it can also mean something like
sending you on a flight to SYD with a connection back to AKL on a completely
different airline. With separate tickets the two airlines have no
responsibility other than to take you for the journey ticketed PROVIDED you
check in on time. At the very least, if you decide to use separate tickets
allow extra connection time.

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Old December 16th, 2008, 09:42 AM
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I was wondering if someone could tell me how to get the lowest fare
from BWI to AKL (return) in late January. I was hoping for something
US$1500 but have only been able to find US$2000.

Many thanks in advance,
Peter.
Hello
this is good. here lot of agencies are available that is providing cheap fare. easily you can find out.
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Old December 20th, 2008, 02:23 PM posted to rec.travel.air
PeterOut
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Default BWI-AKL Late January. Looking for Cheapest Fare

On Dec 14, 12:39 pm, John Levine wrote:
PeterOut wrote:
I was wondering if someone could tell me how to get the lowest fare
from BWI to AKL (return) in late January. I was hoping for something
US$1500 but have only been able to find US$2000.


The always informative itasoftware says that Air NZ has a $1076 round
trip from SFO or LAX starting on the 29th. It also says that NW has
$227 connections on those dates BWI-LAX with schedules that match up
reasonably well with the NZ flights.

R's,
John


Thanks very much. I will try itasoftware out. Unfortunately, I
should have mentioned that I was hoping to get to a wedding on the
22nd.

Thanks again,
Peter.
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Old December 20th, 2008, 02:35 PM posted to rec.travel.air
PeterOut
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Default BWI-AKL Late January. Looking for Cheapest Fare

On Dec 16, 3:42 am, thomasclark
wrote:
PeterOut;945374 Wrote:

I was wondering if someone could tell me how to get the lowest fare
from BWI to AKL (return) in late January. I was hoping for something
US$1500 but have only been able to find US$2000.


Many thanks in advance,
Peter.


Hello
this is good. here lot of agencies are available that is providing
cheap fare. easily you can find out.

--
thomasclark

'cheap flights' (http://www.cheapflightsservice.com)|'Cheap Flights to
San Diego' (http://tinyurl.com/5zjmkb)


Thanks. I had tried sites like Orbitz, CheapTickets, Travelocity,
etc. but their tickets are all in the order of US$2.5K at that time of
year. I thought there might be some tricks to undercut those guys. I
wonder if tickets would be cheaper if we didn't have all these travel
agents buying them and the customers could just buy them directly from
the airlines.
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Old December 20th, 2008, 05:07 PM posted to rec.travel.air
John Levine
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Default BWI-AKL Late January. Looking for Cheapest Fare

Thanks. I had tried sites like Orbitz, CheapTickets, Travelocity,
etc. but their tickets are all in the order of US$2.5K at that time
of year. I thought there might be some tricks to undercut those
guys.


There's two things you can try to beat the online agents: one is to
split the trip, like I did at LAX or SFO, and see if separate tickets
would be better. ITA's search engine can do this but that feature is
turned off for policy reasons.

The other is to check airlines like Southwest and Ryanair that only
sell direct. That won't help for US to NZ, since there are only three
airlines on that route all of which sell through agents, but Southwest
flies between BWI and LAX or SFO and might have a good fare. As was
noted at length before, if you do that and you miss your connection,
you're on your own.

I wonder if tickets would be cheaper if we didn't have all these
travel agents buying them and the customers could just buy them
directly from the airlines.


You can buy tickets direct from the airlines' web sites. You'll find
that the agents rarely mark them up more than $10, and occasionally
have negotiated fares not available direct.

ITA now says that you can fly from BWI to AKL on the 17th for $2105
via SFO with the domestic segment on UA, so I'd buy that fare sooner
rather than later.

Outbound you arrive in SFO at 11:08 AM and leave at 7:00 PM. I can
report from experience that assuming you arrive roughly on time, you
have plenty of time to store your luggage at the Airport Travel
Agency, which is conveniently located about 50 feet from the NZ
checkin desks, and take BART into the city for lunch and a little
sightseeing.

R's,
John

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Old December 21st, 2008, 12:24 AM posted to rec.travel.air
sharx35
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Default BWI-AKL Late January. Looking for Cheapest Fare



"John Levine" wrote in message
...
Thanks. I had tried sites like Orbitz, CheapTickets, Travelocity,
etc. but their tickets are all in the order of US$2.5K at that time
of year. I thought there might be some tricks to undercut those
guys.


There's two things you can try to beat the online agents: one is to
split the trip, like I did at LAX or SFO, and see if separate tickets
would be better. ITA's search engine can do this but that feature is
turned off for policy reasons.

The other is to check airlines like Southwest and Ryanair that only
sell direct. That won't help for US to NZ, since there are only three
airlines on that route all of which sell through agents, but Southwest
flies between BWI and LAX or SFO and might have a good fare. As was
noted at length before, if you do that and you miss your connection,
you're on your own.

I wonder if tickets would be cheaper if we didn't have all these
travel agents buying them and the customers could just buy them
directly from the airlines.


You can buy tickets direct from the airlines' web sites. You'll find
that the agents rarely mark them up more than $10, and occasionally
have negotiated fares not available direct.

ITA now says that you can fly from BWI to AKL on the 17th for $2105
via SFO with the domestic segment on UA, so I'd buy that fare sooner
rather than later.

Outbound you arrive in SFO at 11:08 AM and leave at 7:00 PM. I can
report from experience that assuming you arrive roughly on time, you
have plenty of time to store your luggage at the Airport Travel
Agency, which is conveniently located about 50 feet from the NZ
checkin desks, and take BART into the city for lunch and a little
sightseeing.

R's,
John


I HAVE to wonder why ANYONE would spend that money and time just to go to a
wedding.
Send the newlyweds a cheque for HALF what it would cost you to travel there.
Guaranteed, they will be thrilled~!!!!





 




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