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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:01:11 -0800, Irwell wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:42:47 GMT, John Kulp wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:13:55 -0800, Irwell wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:00:02 +0100, Alfred Molon wrote: Why exactly are you not allowed to use a notebook computer during take- off and landing? The radio power emitted by a notebook should be too weak to cause any problems to the plane electronics. One notebook maybe, but 50 to 100 could cause some beat frequency problems with the avionics. Baloney. This has been proven to be completely false again and again. Not asking about your state of mind here. They, the people who really know, require that all electronic devices be powered down during the landing and take off phases of the flight. They don't want to take chances with passenger's electronics that may not be assembled and tested to FCC/FAA standards, including radiation hardness. The only "people who really know" are those who have carried out actual tests, and so far those tests have failed to show any adverse effects from using notebook computers. Those who make these rules are "people who don't really know", so they just err on the side of caution. Chris |
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John Kulp wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:01:11 -0800, Irwell wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:42:47 GMT, John Kulp wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:13:55 -0800, Irwell wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:00:02 +0100, Alfred Molon wrote: Why exactly are you not allowed to use a notebook computer during take- off and landing? The radio power emitted by a notebook should be too weak to cause any problems to the plane electronics. One notebook maybe, but 50 to 100 could cause some beat frequency problems with the avionics. Baloney. This has been proven to be completely false again and again. Not asking about your state of mind here. They, the people who really know, require that all electronic devices be powered down during the landing and take off phases of the flight. They don't want to take chances with passenger's electronics that may not be assembled and tested to FCC/FAA standards, including radiation hardness. Sure and cellphones do the same thing according to the same ones that believe this. Also, having been proven to be completely false. The reason, as everyone else knows, is to prevent liability for these things flying around the cabin in case of a sudden stop. Are you saying that they are less dangerous when they are switched off? And exactly how dangerous is my Nanopod as a flying object? T. |
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, PeterL says... If they want you to put everything away and store all your stuff under you seat, why would they then allow you to hold a piece of hardware on your lap? It may be thrown around in turbulance and hurt someone. Hmmm... you are allowed to keep the notebook on your lap if it is switched off. -- Alfred Molon http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe |
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:42:58 +0800, Chris Blunt wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:01:11 -0800, Irwell wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:42:47 GMT, John Kulp wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:13:55 -0800, Irwell wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:00:02 +0100, Alfred Molon wrote: Why exactly are you not allowed to use a notebook computer during take- off and landing? The radio power emitted by a notebook should be too weak to cause any problems to the plane electronics. One notebook maybe, but 50 to 100 could cause some beat frequency problems with the avionics. Baloney. This has been proven to be completely false again and again. Not asking about your state of mind here. They, the people who really know, require that all electronic devices be powered down during the landing and take off phases of the flight. They don't want to take chances with passenger's electronics that may not be assembled and tested to FCC/FAA standards, including radiation hardness. The only "people who really know" are those who have carried out actual tests, and so far those tests have failed to show any adverse effects from using notebook computers. Those who make these rules are "people who don't really know", so they just err on the side of caution. Chris Not quite true Chris, just have a look at the NASA website for information on how 'consumer electronics' have intefered with avionics systems. |
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:42:34 GMT, John Kulp wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:01:11 -0800, Irwell wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:42:47 GMT, John Kulp wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:13:55 -0800, Irwell wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:00:02 +0100, Alfred Molon wrote: Why exactly are you not allowed to use a notebook computer during take- off and landing? The radio power emitted by a notebook should be too weak to cause any problems to the plane electronics. One notebook maybe, but 50 to 100 could cause some beat frequency problems with the avionics. Baloney. This has been proven to be completely false again and again. Not asking about your state of mind here. They, the people who really know, require that all electronic devices be powered down during the landing and take off phases of the flight. They don't want to take chances with passenger's electronics that may not be assembled and tested to FCC/FAA standards, including radiation hardness. Sure and cellphones do the same thing according to the same ones that believe this. Also, having been proven to be completely false. The reason, as everyone else knows, is to prevent liability for these things flying around the cabin in case of a sudden stop. Weak argument, put away your 10 ounce cell phone, but you can carry on reading your 2 lb book. |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:23:15 -0600, Jim Davis wrote:
"PeterL" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 3:00 pm, Alfred Molon wrote: Why exactly are you not allowed to use a notebook computer during take- off and landing? The radio power emitted by a notebook should be too weak to cause any problems to the plane electronics. -- Alfred Molonhttp://www.molon.de- Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe If they want you to put everything away and store all your stuff under you seat, why would they then allow you to hold a piece of hardware on your lap? It may be thrown around in turbulance and hurt someone. Everything has to be stowed as not to become a deadly flying object in the event of an accident. The crazy part is, you can have an infant on your lap. Don't worry about the infant, watch out for disposable pampers. |
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:42:58 +0800, Chris Blunt
wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:01:11 -0800, Irwell wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:42:47 GMT, John Kulp wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:13:55 -0800, Irwell wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:00:02 +0100, Alfred Molon wrote: Why exactly are you not allowed to use a notebook computer during take- off and landing? The radio power emitted by a notebook should be too weak to cause any problems to the plane electronics. One notebook maybe, but 50 to 100 could cause some beat frequency problems with the avionics. Baloney. This has been proven to be completely false again and again. Not asking about your state of mind here. They, the people who really know, require that all electronic devices be powered down during the landing and take off phases of the flight. They don't want to take chances with passenger's electronics that may not be assembled and tested to FCC/FAA standards, including radiation hardness. The only "people who really know" are those who have carried out actual tests, and so far those tests have failed to show any adverse effects from using notebook computers. Those who make these rules are "people who don't really know", so they just err on the side of caution. As far as this issue is concerned, yes. But not as far as keeping them from flying around the cabin. That's a valid issue. Chris |
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:21:55 +0100, Tom P wrote:
John Kulp wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:01:11 -0800, Irwell wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:42:47 GMT, John Kulp wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:13:55 -0800, Irwell wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:00:02 +0100, Alfred Molon wrote: Why exactly are you not allowed to use a notebook computer during take- off and landing? The radio power emitted by a notebook should be too weak to cause any problems to the plane electronics. One notebook maybe, but 50 to 100 could cause some beat frequency problems with the avionics. Baloney. This has been proven to be completely false again and again. Not asking about your state of mind here. They, the people who really know, require that all electronic devices be powered down during the landing and take off phases of the flight. They don't want to take chances with passenger's electronics that may not be assembled and tested to FCC/FAA standards, including radiation hardness. Sure and cellphones do the same thing according to the same ones that believe this. Also, having been proven to be completely false. The reason, as everyone else knows, is to prevent liability for these things flying around the cabin in case of a sudden stop. Are you saying that they are less dangerous when they are switched off? And exactly how dangerous is my Nanopod as a flying object? Very, if it flew out of your hand and hit someone in the temple. |
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