vote for moderators for rec.travel.europe

i am saddened by the mass of nonsensical posts appearing on this
travel group.
it seems that some people,who have given up trying to achive anything
useful in life, hope to achive notoriety by spamming this group in an
attempt to gain some sort of attention.

usenet is the oldest host for europe travel discussions and it would
be a shame for it to be extinguished by this garbage. what would be
involved to make the group moderated?

take a look back 5 yrs ago and compare the posts to those currently on
today

26 Feb 2000 Paris details (5 articles) Richard Mace
26 Feb 2000 Day trip: Paris to Amsterdam Question (12 articles)
anonymous
26 Feb 2000 Buses paris - Alfortville (2 articles) Henry Polard
26 Feb 2000 Paris - hotel La louisiane? (1 article) Henry Polard
26 Feb 2000 pronounciation of Krakow (9 articles) James Silverton
26 Feb 2000 Travelocity / Yahoo!Travel Sucks: The post nonexisti...
(14 articles) JF Mezei
26 Feb 2000 Eur or Francs ? (28 articles) R J Carpenter
26 Feb 2000 CDG--Central Paris (9 articles) R J Carpenter
26 Feb 2000 Holiday in France (2 articles) Bob and Sue Winn
26 Feb 2000 what to wear ?? (46 articles) LZ
26 Feb 2000 London Walks (52 articles) Deb Cole-Weber/Kurt Weber
26 Feb 2000 Seven days in Bohemia (9 articles) Erica Ginsberg
26 Feb 2000 thessaloniki and skopje? (1 article) Erica Ginsberg
26 Feb 2000 Paris Charles DeGaulle Airport (6 articles) Mark Brader
26 Feb 2000 Carlton Hotel Cannes (4 articles) MILUCH
26 Feb 2000 Spain / Portugal Trip (3 articles) Jaquey Moss

(Sam) wrote:

... what would be involved to make the group moderated? ...

It's not on.

Besides, r.t.e. is still a wonderful forum and resource. Ignore the
stuff that doesn't interest you.

--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED

Sam wrote:

take a look back 5 yrs ago and compare the posts to those currently
on
today

26 Feb 2000 Paris details (5 articles) Richard Mace
26 Feb 2000 Day trip: Paris to Amsterdam Question (12 articles)
anonymous
26 Feb 2000 Buses paris - Alfortville (2 articles) Henry Polard

It's a fair point, but do bear in mind that on-topic thread titles
don't necessarily mean on-topic thread content. I can't remember the
group /ever/ being free of off-topic discussion. (And, if anything, the
off-topic titles actually make it easier to avoid the irrelevant
material.)

On 26 Feb 2005 05:27:02 -0800, wrote:

Sam wrote:

take a look back 5 yrs ago and compare the posts to those currently
on
today

26 Feb 2000 Paris details (5 articles) Richard Mace
26 Feb 2000 Day trip: Paris to Amsterdam Question (12 articles)
anonymous
26 Feb 2000 Buses paris - Alfortville (2 articles) Henry Polard

It's a fair point, but do bear in mind that on-topic thread titles
don't necessarily mean on-topic thread content. I can't remember the
group /ever/ being free of off-topic discussion. (And, if anything, the
off-topic titles actually make it easier to avoid the irrelevant
material.)

I've been following this group for years, at least 10 years and surely
more than that. The moronic posts come and go; they go away faster if
people totally ignore the morons.

I use a threaded news reader and mark all off-topic threads to be
ignored. That means that most of the idiotic postings get purged
before I see the headings.

--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

B Vaughan wrote:

[]
I use a threaded news reader and mark all off-topic threads to be
ignored. That means that most of the idiotic postings get purged
before I see the headings.

Filtering for multiple newsgroup postings also helps. I filter out any
alt.* or soc.* postings from r.t.e.

--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

Sam writes:

i am saddened by the mass of nonsensical posts appearing on this
travel group.
it seems that some people,who have given up trying to achive anything
useful in life, hope to achive notoriety by spamming this group in an
attempt to gain some sort of attention.

You're new, aren't you? Newbies always call for moderators at some
point.

usenet is the oldest host for europe travel discussions and it would
be a shame for it to be extinguished by this garbage. what would be
involved to make the group moderated?

Newbies always think that groups are going to be extinguished by spam.
They don't realize that veterans of USENET aren't reading the spam,
anyway, so the spam is unimportant.

Stop reading it, and it won't bother you.

Moderated groups typically wither and die in USENET. That's why
virtually all groups are unmoderated.

take a look back 5 yrs ago and compare the posts to those currently on
today

Looks about the same.

If you don't like it here, there are plenty of moderated, censored
forums on the Web for you to visit. In fact, I think people who feel as
you do are better off on such forums, where they can interact with
people of like mind. I'll continue to vote for free speech, myself.

--
Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.

ok you can do the job

Sam wrote:

i am saddened by the mass of nonsensical posts appearing on this
travel group.
it seems that some people,who have given up trying to achive anything
useful in life, hope to achive notoriety by spamming this group in an
attempt to gain some sort of attention.

usenet is the oldest host for europe travel discussions and it would
be a shame for it to be extinguished by this garbage. what would be
involved to make the group moderated?

take a look back 5 yrs ago and compare the posts to those currently on
today

This coming from someone who has posted only twice in the last two months,
one of them being a silly piece of tourist advice that suggests poring
over maps to memorize them so as not to look lost, and to carry a
political or soccer newspaper, and another post that made absolutely no
sense at all.

This in use net. OT stuff gets posted and threads digress. If you have
been reading this group for 5 years you should have learned how to filter
OT posts, cross posts, topics and users. If not, you can simply skip over
the stuff that does not interest you. But how sad that such a rant comes
from someone who, at least under this user name, has never posted anything
of interest himself.

I suspect that this thread will generate the most uniformity of response
seen in many years in this group. Posters of all types will agree that
moderated groups will not work for us.

Set up a moderated group of your own with John Munch and you can play
fantasy together.

Sam wrote:

i am saddened by the mass of nonsensical posts appearing on this
travel group.
it seems that some people,who have given up trying to achive anything
useful in life, hope to achive notoriety by spamming this group in an
attempt to gain some sort of attention.

usenet is the oldest host for europe travel discussions and it would
be a shame for it to be extinguished by this garbage. what would be
involved to make the group moderated?

take a look back 5 yrs ago and compare the posts to those currently on
today

26 Feb 2000 Paris details (5 articles) Richard Mace
26 Feb 2000 Day trip: Paris to Amsterdam Question (12 articles)
anonymous
26 Feb 2000 Buses paris - Alfortville (2 articles) Henry Polard
26 Feb 2000 Paris - hotel La louisiane? (1 article) Henry Polard
26 Feb 2000 pronounciation of Krakow (9 articles) James Silverton
26 Feb 2000 Travelocity / Yahoo!Travel Sucks: The post nonexisti...
(14 articles) JF Mezei
26 Feb 2000 Eur or Francs ? (28 articles) R J Carpenter
26 Feb 2000 CDG--Central Paris (9 articles) R J Carpenter
26 Feb 2000 Holiday in France (2 articles) Bob and Sue Winn
26 Feb 2000 what to wear ?? (46 articles) LZ
26 Feb 2000 London Walks (52 articles) Deb Cole-Weber/Kurt Weber
26 Feb 2000 Seven days in Bohemia (9 articles) Erica Ginsberg
26 Feb 2000 thessaloniki and skopje? (1 article) Erica Ginsberg
26 Feb 2000 Paris Charles DeGaulle Airport (6 articles) Mark Brader
26 Feb 2000 Carlton Hotel Cannes (4 articles) MILUCH
26 Feb 2000 Spain / Portugal Trip (3 articles) Jaquey Moss

On 26 Feb 2005 04:53:37 -0800, (Sam) wrote:

The problem isn't OT postings. It's the idiots who feel driven to respond
to postings that are (pick as many as apply) Off Topic, Obvious Flame-Bait,
or Obvious Trolls.

The solution is to ignore any posting that fits the above categories.

- Mark

i am saddened by the mass of nonsensical posts appearing on this
travel group.
it seems that some people,who have given up trying to achive anything
useful in life, hope to achive notoriety by spamming this group in an
attempt to gain some sort of attention.

usenet is the oldest host for europe travel discussions and it would
be a shame for it to be extinguished by this garbage. what would be
involved to make the group moderated?