Changing to Celebrity

E.k.R. wrote:
I see just as much cleaning, polishing, vacuuming, etc. on RCI as
I do on Celebrity, Princess, etc.

Ernie, specifically vacuuming, I don't see anywhere near as much
vacuuming even on HAL that I see on Celebrity. They constantly vacuum,
they vacuum the furniture, the rugs, any fabric, and sometimes they even
get in your way with all of the cleaning going on. While certainly
Celebrity ships aren't spotless I find the cleaning constant and
conspicuous that I certainly did not see on RCI. There was some cleaning
but nowhere near as much as Celebrity. I saw a lot of painting on the
exterior of Explorer, more than Celebrity, and some varnishing. I think
Celebrity could take better care of the exterior of their ships,
sometimes the blue areas look faded and uneven and I've seen rust areas
on Zenith and Horizon in NYC, and I also think that the deck area
flooring can look quite worn and could be better kept. So Celebrity's
not perfect. But I definitely see differences in the maintenance of
Celebrity and HAL vs. what I've seen, even in ship tours, of RCI ships.
The most unclean ships I've seen in tours are NCL. I've only taken one
NCL cruise, and it was a short one, and the ship was not clean, and I
think it is telling that on tours NCL ships were not at all clean,
Crystal was immaculate, Celebrity ships have been always very clean, HAL
ships have been always very clean, Pacific Princess was conspicuously
being cleaned when I toured her. There are differences in overt
cleanliness in cruise lines (I don't know how an NCL galley may look
compared to a Celebrity galley or other areas not seen by the public).

Ben S.

I stand by what I stated earlier. I've never found any RCI ship I've sailed
to be dirty, and I've sailed enough cruise lines and ships that

The RCI ships I have cruised on looked clean to me. I guess it
depends on what you look for. When I cruise, I am on vacation. I
enjoy the ship and the activities the ship offers. I am not holding a
clipboard and wearing white gloves doing ship inspections.

Maybe I should cruise on RCI more often, I am sure I would find a ship
that was soiled.

Becca -----does not search for rust on the rails...

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Becca wrote:
I stand by what I stated earlier. I've never found any RCI ship I've sailed
to be dirty, and I've sailed enough cruise lines and ships that


The RCI ships I have cruised on looked clean to me. I guess it
depends on what you look for. When I cruise, I am on vacation. I
enjoy the ship and the activities the ship offers. I am not holding a
clipboard and wearing white gloves doing ship inspections.

Maybe I should cruise on RCI more often, I am sure I would find a ship
that was soiled.

Becca -----does not search for rust on the rails...

Believe me Becca, I am not a "clean freak." The kind of stuff I've seen
on all but the newest RCCL ships does not require white gloves to
detect. It is VERY obvious and to me there is very obviously some kind
of management problem with respect to ship maintenance on this line.
Despite this, I have actually loved all of my RCCL cruises and would go
on any of the Voyager or Radiance class ships in a heartbeat.

Howard

CupCaked wrote:

I know what you mean, Howard. There are times when dirt just jumps
out at you, even when you're not looking for it. Honestly, how many
of us go on a cruise to find fault with the housekeeping? But when
you're stumbling over full-to-the-brim trash bins and bumping into
ashtrays that are overflowing, how can you NOT see that?? One would
have to be completely and unabashedly oblivious to what's around them
not to.

Karen

Thanks Karen.

Howard - who has stated more than once that he has never met a cruise he
didn't like.

Norwegian Dawn was on the same level of cleanliness as Ocean Princess
(our best Princess ship) and most Celebrity ships we've seen.

I don't know if it's because the ship was very new when we were on her,
or if Star is much more serious than NCL's previous ownership, or if we
just got lucky with that ship.

She had nothing in common with the Leeward that we were both on.

--Tom

Benjamin Smith wrote:

E.k.R. wrote:
I see just as much cleaning, polishing, vacuuming, etc. on RCI as
I do on Celebrity, Princess, etc.

Ernie, specifically vacuuming, I don't see anywhere near as much
vacuuming even on HAL that I see on Celebrity. They constantly vacuum,
they vacuum the furniture, the rugs, any fabric, and sometimes they even
get in your way with all of the cleaning going on. While certainly
Celebrity ships aren't spotless I find the cleaning constant and
conspicuous that I certainly did not see on RCI. There was some cleaning
but nowhere near as much as Celebrity. I saw a lot of painting on the
exterior of Explorer, more than Celebrity, and some varnishing. I think
Celebrity could take better care of the exterior of their ships,
sometimes the blue areas look faded and uneven and I've seen rust areas
on Zenith and Horizon in NYC, and I also think that the deck area
flooring can look quite worn and could be better kept. So Celebrity's
not perfect. But I definitely see differences in the maintenance of
Celebrity and HAL vs. what I've seen, even in ship tours, of RCI ships.
The most unclean ships I've seen in tours are NCL. I've only taken one
NCL cruise, and it was a short one, and the ship was not clean, and I
think it is telling that on tours NCL ships were not at all clean,
Crystal was immaculate, Celebrity ships have been always very clean, HAL
ships have been always very clean, Pacific Princess was conspicuously
being cleaned when I toured her. There are differences in overt
cleanliness in cruise lines (I don't know how an NCL galley may look
compared to a Celebrity galley or other areas not seen by the public).

Ben S.

It seems like as people get older they are more inclined to eat earlier and
usually request first seating. In my view however I feel that the big attraction
to Caribbean Cruising is the Islands and the Sunsets. Eating early and going to
bed early can wait till I can no longer Travel and Cruise.

We like to be about the last ones back, have some cocktails or wine, meet with
friends and compare the days adventures, kick back on deck or balcony, and enjoy
the magnificient Sunsets. Then get cleaned up for dinner and what the ship has
to offer.

Cal Ford
http://www.lidodeckcruises.com
800-511-4417


In article , E.k.R. says...

Eileen,
That annoys me to no end as well! One of the reasons I book the late
seating is I don't like being rushed to get ready for dinner, and often
times I enjoy a before dinner cocktail. Having my evening show before
dinner shoots that all to hell! Drives me crazy!

Another reason I like the late seating is so my evening doesn't feel long or
dragged out. It's so simple. Pool and gym/spa during the day. Leisurely
get ready for dinner. Before dinner cocktails. Dinner. Evening show.
Disco or casino afterward. It's after midnight before you know it. By
placing the show before dinner I'm left with little to do after dinner!
I've written that in my questionnaire several times, but Celebrity still
seems hell bent on doing this.... although not every night, just some. If
it were the case every night I might have to consider another cruise line.

Ernie


"Eileen Garland" wrote in message
...
I'll pick just one point out of your excellent post, Ernie. The last
few Celebrity cruises we've been on did have two shows most night - but
they very often offered the before-dinner show to late-seating guests
and the after-dinner show to the early-seating guests.

Annoyed the hell out of me!

Eileen

"Stephan in Burlington" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:00:10 GMT, while the Captain of the mv Perfecto
was guiding her to her next port, (CupCaked)
wrote:

Aren't those ship ice arenas a bit too small for a regulation game for
ice hockey?

Way too small. An NHL regulation rink is 200 feet x 85 feet.

Stephan in Burlington ----the human proudly owned by Harley the
Kitten

That's the amazing part. The ice is very small in comparison to an NHL rink
but what theskaters do with that small bit of ice is spectacular. I'm not
one for ice shows but it was free so I went. It was one of the best parts of
the cruise. I walked away amazed.

Bill

In article ,
Cal Ford wrote:
It seems like as people get older they are more inclined to eat earlier and
usually request first seating. In my view however I feel that the big attraction
to Caribbean Cruising is the Islands and the Sunsets. Eating early and going to
bed early can wait till I can no longer Travel and Cruise.

Which is weird because I've been cruising since my early 20's (10 years
ago) and I always liked early dinner seating because it leaves me more
time to party.

--
Asya Kamsky

"To forgive is an act of compassion. It is not done because
people deserve it, it's done because they need it." -- Rupert Giles.

I have always preferred the early dinners so I could have more time later. I
will admit, though, as a sun-worshiper it was often difficult to go in and get
ready for a formal night, in particular. But, I guess that's what Anytime
Dining is for on Princess, at least.

Asya wrote:

Which is weird because I've been cruising since my early 20's (10 years
ago) and I always liked early dinner seating because it leaves me more
time to party.

hi, im 32 ,SWM in Washington,Dc area.
my mom is a traval agent. We have done 7 ships in two years. We like
carnival more, but for Alaska, 7 day from Vancover,BC we did the
Infinity, the bal cony is way to go. we got conerage class, and free
robes.
Anne and Billy


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