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Peter schrieb:
I'd also get a driving map with the distances shown http://www.australianexplorer.com/driving_distances.htm ... Have a look at http://www.travelmate.com.au/MapMaker/MapMaker.asp?TM_Page=Mapmaker. Totally forget about getting off a longhaul flight and hiring a car at the airport. Yes, absolutely. Especially if you normally drive on the right side of the road. Oh, I think it's more difficult if you come back to Europe and suddenly find yourself on the left lane! Fraser Island is great, but you can't take a 2WD rental car over. We booked an organized tour with a 4WD-bus. Normaly I hate such tours, but this one was great, even with all the people around you. Bego -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - George W. Bush, 5.8.2004 |
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Peter schrieb:
I'd also get a driving map with the distances shown http://www.australianexplorer.com/driving_distances.htm ... Have a look at http://www.travelmate.com.au/MapMaker/MapMaker.asp?TM_Page=Mapmaker. Totally forget about getting off a longhaul flight and hiring a car at the airport. Yes, absolutely. Especially if you normally drive on the right side of the road. Oh, I think it's more difficult if you come back to Europe and suddenly find yourself on the left lane! Fraser Island is great, but you can't take a 2WD rental car over. We booked an organized tour with a 4WD-bus. Normaly I hate such tours, but this one was great, even with all the people around you. Bego -- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - George W. Bush, 5.8.2004 |
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Whats the attraction with Sydney???
Blue Mountains I guess but not much more. I reckon one or two days tops there, and spend the extra time in the centre or in Kakadu. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" Newsgroups: rec.travel.australia+nz Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:02 AM Subject: Australia travel tips snip Just a rough itinerary to play with over 20 days: 1 Sydney 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Adelaide 9 Alice 10 Uluru 11 Darwin 12 Kakadu 13 14 Cairns 15 16 17 18 19 20 depart Cheers, Alan -- |
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Whats the attraction with Sydney???
Blue Mountains I guess but not much more. I reckon one or two days tops there, and spend the extra time in the centre or in Kakadu. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" Newsgroups: rec.travel.australia+nz Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:02 AM Subject: Australia travel tips snip Just a rough itinerary to play with over 20 days: 1 Sydney 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Adelaide 9 Alice 10 Uluru 11 Darwin 12 Kakadu 13 14 Cairns 15 16 17 18 19 20 depart Cheers, Alan -- |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 18:30:22 +0800, "Alan G. McCall"
wrote: Whats the attraction with Sydney??? Blue Mountains I guess but not much more. I reckon one or two days tops there, and spend the extra time in the centre or in Kakadu. Alan Hi Alan I suspect the only point we'll agree on here is how you spell your name. You hit a nerve, after a few similar comments by others. Last year I spent some time in almost all of the major cities of the Western world. Each had it's own unique attractions, and each was well worth the visit. And, as an Aussie, I'll admit my bias up front even though I live 900km from Sydney. Sydney was right up there with the best of them. For scenery - that magnificent harbour is unbeatable, food, shopping, activities, people, and just simply the differences between it and the other great cities, you would be mad to miss it or hurry it. And no, it doesn't have the antiquity of Rome, Aquilaea, Pompeii, Mycenae or Athens; it doesn't have the Prado or the Getty or the Louvre; it doesn't have the history of Versailles or Edinburgh or Trier or Bath; it doesn't have the theatres of Broadway or the cafe's of Paris. I saw all those, and many others - you would find it hard to name a major western city we didn't visit. In twenty countries over five months. I could go on - but I'm showing off here to make the point that Sydney is right up there as a major tourist city. I re-visited it with fresh eyes after that trip. It's a great city. To see this country, you need to see more than the outback, the rock, the reef and Kakadu. You need to see the cities, where most of the people are, in one of the most urbanised countries in the world. And Sydney is also the most cosmopolitan of them all, a melting pot of western and eastern cuisines and all the cultures of the world. I'll stop before this becomes a book. Cheers, Alan -- |
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Peter wrote:
In article , says... Alessandro Cannarsi wrote: 2) flying Sydney-Uluru, driving about, Flying Alice-Cairns, driving up to Cape York (how many days?), diving 3/4 days on the reef and then fly back to Sydney. Best way to plan your journey is to open a spreadshet and fill in the days of your journey. I'd also get a driving map with the distances shown http://www.australianexplorer.com/driving_distances.htm has a rough guide and links to more detailed sites. Most of the distances are two or three *thousand* kilometres. But even then the distances are hard to imagine, especially for Europeans, which I imagine the original poster (Alessandro Cannarsi) is. Some Europeans 'easily' drive 1000km and more a day to get somewhere. In Australia that is hardly possible (for a European) and a complete waste of your time. If you drive (so) much per day, you might as well fly, because you will not have time to see/visit anything along the way, and the *driver* will see the road and little else. A more sane distance is a *few* hundred km per day. Many rental agencies advise an average of about 250km per day. But with those averages, the original poster will get exactly nowhere, given his limited time. Personally, I prefer driving, so I would limit how far I would go and would probably drop Ayers Rock (etc.) and Kakadu and go north from Sydney to as far as practical/comfortable, or perhaps even south and 'around' the lower-right 'corner' of Australia to Melbourne, Great Ocean Road, etc.. I have not checked, but probably the Snowy Mountains (Koswhatever) and/or Grampians National Parks could be included. Also Bego's fly+drive plan looks quite OK. Another approach is to get some brochures from a good/responsible travel company and 'copy' one of their itineraries, especially the fly+(self-)drive ones. Alessandro, for your information: On our first trip we did *less* (not Cairns and further up north) than what you are planning in *six* weeks, and *still* flew part of the way (from Alice Springs back to Sydney). |
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Peter wrote:
In article , says... Alessandro Cannarsi wrote: 2) flying Sydney-Uluru, driving about, Flying Alice-Cairns, driving up to Cape York (how many days?), diving 3/4 days on the reef and then fly back to Sydney. Best way to plan your journey is to open a spreadshet and fill in the days of your journey. I'd also get a driving map with the distances shown http://www.australianexplorer.com/driving_distances.htm has a rough guide and links to more detailed sites. Most of the distances are two or three *thousand* kilometres. But even then the distances are hard to imagine, especially for Europeans, which I imagine the original poster (Alessandro Cannarsi) is. Some Europeans 'easily' drive 1000km and more a day to get somewhere. In Australia that is hardly possible (for a European) and a complete waste of your time. If you drive (so) much per day, you might as well fly, because you will not have time to see/visit anything along the way, and the *driver* will see the road and little else. A more sane distance is a *few* hundred km per day. Many rental agencies advise an average of about 250km per day. But with those averages, the original poster will get exactly nowhere, given his limited time. Personally, I prefer driving, so I would limit how far I would go and would probably drop Ayers Rock (etc.) and Kakadu and go north from Sydney to as far as practical/comfortable, or perhaps even south and 'around' the lower-right 'corner' of Australia to Melbourne, Great Ocean Road, etc.. I have not checked, but probably the Snowy Mountains (Koswhatever) and/or Grampians National Parks could be included. Also Bego's fly+drive plan looks quite OK. Another approach is to get some brochures from a good/responsible travel company and 'copy' one of their itineraries, especially the fly+(self-)drive ones. Alessandro, for your information: On our first trip we did *less* (not Cairns and further up north) than what you are planning in *six* weeks, and *still* flew part of the way (from Alice Springs back to Sydney). |
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Peter wrote:
In article , says... Alessandro Cannarsi wrote: 2) flying Sydney-Uluru, driving about, Flying Alice-Cairns, driving up to Cape York (how many days?), diving 3/4 days on the reef and then fly back to Sydney. Best way to plan your journey is to open a spreadshet and fill in the days of your journey. I'd also get a driving map with the distances shown http://www.australianexplorer.com/driving_distances.htm has a rough guide and links to more detailed sites. Most of the distances are two or three *thousand* kilometres. But even then the distances are hard to imagine, especially for Europeans, which I imagine the original poster (Alessandro Cannarsi) is. Some Europeans 'easily' drive 1000km and more a day to get somewhere. In Australia that is hardly possible (for a European) and a complete waste of your time. If you drive (so) much per day, you might as well fly, because you will not have time to see/visit anything along the way, and the *driver* will see the road and little else. A more sane distance is a *few* hundred km per day. Many rental agencies advise an average of about 250km per day. But with those averages, the original poster will get exactly nowhere, given his limited time. Personally, I prefer driving, so I would limit how far I would go and would probably drop Ayers Rock (etc.) and Kakadu and go north from Sydney to as far as practical/comfortable, or perhaps even south and 'around' the lower-right 'corner' of Australia to Melbourne, Great Ocean Road, etc.. I have not checked, but probably the Snowy Mountains (Koswhatever) and/or Grampians National Parks could be included. Also Bego's fly+drive plan looks quite OK. Another approach is to get some brochures from a good/responsible travel company and 'copy' one of their itineraries, especially the fly+(self-)drive ones. Alessandro, for your information: On our first trip we did *less* (not Cairns and further up north) than what you are planning in *six* weeks, and *still* flew part of the way (from Alice Springs back to Sydney). |
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