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Old January 3rd, 2008, 07:38 AM posted to rec.travel.air
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US Bans Spare Lithium Batteries from Checked Bags
Starting Jan. 1 air passengers in the U.S. are prohibited from
carrying spare lithium batteries in checked baggage.
James Niccolai, IDGNS
Monday, December 31, 2007 6:00 AM PST

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,14...l?tk=nl_dnxnws

New rules will go into effect on Jan. 1 that prohibit air passengers
in the U.S. from carrying spare lithium batteries in their checked
baggage.

The new rules, announced Friday by the U.S. Department of Transport,
are designed to reduce the risk of fires in aircraft. Lithium
batteries have been identified as a possible cause of several aircraft
fires.

Passengers will still be able to carry lithium batteries in checked
bags if they are installed in a device like a laptop or digital
camera. But loose batteries will need to be put in a plastic bag and
carried on the plane as hand luggage, the DOT said.

The rules also limit each passenger to two "extended-life" lithium
batteries. These are larger batteries with more than 8 grams of
equivalent lithium content, examples of which are pictured in the
DOT's statement.

The rules are also described at the SafeTravel.dot.gov Web site.

In February 2006 a United Parcel Service flight landed at Philidelphia
International Airport after the crew detected a fire in its cargo. The
National Transportation Safety Board said later that it found several
burned out laptop batteries on the plane, and could not rule them out
as a possible cause of the fire.

Lithium batteries are a fire hazzard because of the heat they can
generate when they are damaged or suffer a short circuit, the NTSB
said at a hearingabout the Philidelphia incident last July.

"Several lithium battery incidents have occurred in recent years,
including a lithium-ion battery fire that occurred less than two
months ago on an airplane in Chicago," the NTSB said.

Several big makers of laptops and cell phones, including Dell and
Nokia, have recalled batteries recently because of flaws that created
a potential fire hazzard.
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 07:51 AM posted to rec.travel.air
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"Ablang" wrote in message
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US Bans Spare Lithium Batteries from Checked Bags
Starting Jan. 1 air passengers in the U.S. are prohibited from
carrying spare lithium batteries in checked baggage.


How on earth are they going to enforce that one?

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

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Old January 3rd, 2008, 09:01 AM posted to rec.travel.air
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"Ablang" wrote in message
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US Bans Spare Lithium Batteries from Checked Bags
Starting Jan. 1 air passengers in the U.S. are prohibited from
carrying spare lithium batteries in checked baggage.


How on earth are they going to enforce that one?


X-Rays to evaluate luggage to find illicit cargo, and interpreting a
violation of this law as an application to the no-fly list should do the
trick.
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 04:26 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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DevilsPGD wrote:

X-Rays to evaluate luggage to find illicit cargo, and interpreting a
violation of this law as an application to the no-fly list should do the
trick.


If the battery is for a phone, then buy a cheap
second hand phone on ebay...
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 05:51 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default US Bans Spare Lithium Batteries from Checked Bags

Ablang writes:

Lithium batteries are a fire hazzard because of the heat they can
generate when they are damaged or suffer a short circuit, the NTSB
said at a hearingabout the Philidelphia incident last July.

"Several lithium battery incidents have occurred in recent years,
including a lithium-ion battery fire that occurred less than two
months ago on an airplane in Chicago," the NTSB said.

Several big makers of laptops and cell phones, including Dell and
Nokia, have recalled batteries recently because of flaws that created
a potential fire hazzard.


There's a significant difference between rechargeable batteries containing
lithium, and single-use batteries in a package that contain lithium. It seems
that the TSA doesn't know the difference between the two.

Either type of battery is safe as long as it isn't inside a device and is
properly packaged or protected to prevent short circuits. Commercial lithium
single-use batteries also have integrated overcurrent protection to prevent
heating and explosion if they are short-circuited.
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 05:52 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default US Bans Spare Lithium Batteries from Checked Bags

DevilsPGD writes:

X-Rays to evaluate luggage to find illicit cargo, and interpreting a
violation of this law as an application to the no-fly list should do the
trick.


Rechargeable batteries aren't necessarily very distinctive in appearance on
x-ray images. That rectangle could be all sorts of things.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 01:19 AM posted to rec.travel.air
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In message Mxsmanic
wrote:

DevilsPGD writes:

X-Rays to evaluate luggage to find illicit cargo, and interpreting a
violation of this law as an application to the no-fly list should do the
trick.


Rechargeable batteries aren't necessarily very distinctive in appearance on
x-ray images. That rectangle could be all sorts of things.


Sure, but with a density of a known explosive, I'd guess that they can
find 'em, if so desired.

Like with most things implemented by the TSA, this will probably be
theatre, not actual security, so who knows how effective it will be.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 01:55 AM posted to rec.travel.air
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"DevilsPGD" wrote in message
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In message Mxsmanic
wrote:

DevilsPGD writes:

X-Rays to evaluate luggage to find illicit cargo, and interpreting a
violation of this law as an application to the no-fly list should do the
trick.


Rechargeable batteries aren't necessarily very distinctive in appearance
on
x-ray images. That rectangle could be all sorts of things.


Sure, but with a density of a known explosive, I'd guess that they can
find 'em, if so desired.


If they resemble an explosive, TSA is guarenteed to miss 50% of them.

Like with most things implemented by the TSA, this will probably be
theatre, not actual security, so who knows how effective it will be.



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Old January 4th, 2008, 07:18 AM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default US Bans Spare Lithium Batteries from Checked Bags

In message "Jim Davis"
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If they resemble an explosive, TSA is guarenteed to miss 50% of them.


Indeed. Like I said:

Like with most things implemented by the TSA, this will probably be
theatre, not actual security, so who knows how effective it will be.


 




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