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Old October 27th, 2008, 08:52 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.usa-canada
Dale Norton
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How 'bout that flight. Idiots slapping you with their bags in the aisles.
Overhead bins crammed to the limit. More idiots smashing your bags to
squeeze theirs into the bin. People whining and bitching that there's no
more room. Why don't they just put more seats and overheads in the planes
cargo hold?

Aren't these baggage fees wonderful?


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Old October 28th, 2008, 12:56 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.usa-canada
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Dale Norton wrote:
How 'bout that flight. Idiots slapping you with their bags in the aisles.
Overhead bins crammed to the limit. More idiots smashing your bags to
squeeze theirs into the bin. People whining and bitching that there's no
more room. Why don't they just put more seats and overheads in the planes
cargo hold?


They're selling that space to air-cargo shippers.

Aren't these baggage fees wonderful?


Just wait until the XMAS travel season. Far fewer flights, much higher
fares, and people won't want to pay the $15 to check luggage. This will
be the first major travel season with the luggage fees.

If everyone brings a roller-board size carry-on then the flight
attendants will be do a lot of baggage checking right at the gate, and
that will all be fee-free.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 01:47 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.usa-canada
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"SMS" wrote in message
...
Dale Norton wrote:
How 'bout that flight. Idiots slapping you with their bags in the
aisles. Overhead bins crammed to the limit. More idiots smashing your
bags to squeeze theirs into the bin. People whining and bitching that
there's no more room. Why don't they just put more seats and overheads
in the planes cargo hold?


They're selling that space to air-cargo shippers.

Aren't these baggage fees wonderful?


Just wait until the XMAS travel season. Far fewer flights, much higher
fares, and people won't want to pay the $15 to check luggage.


This will be the first major travel season with the luggage fees.


I think Thanksgiving week will givew us he first clue.

If everyone brings a roller-board size carry-on then the flight attendants
will be do a lot of baggage checking right at the gate, and that will all
be fee-free.


That's a good idea. We'll have to see what happens when that process starts
delaying departures.


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Old October 28th, 2008, 11:16 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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On Oct 28, 9:47*am, "Jim Davis" wrote:
"SMS" wrote in message

...

Dale Norton wrote:
How 'bout that flight. *Idiots slapping you with their bags in the
aisles. Overhead bins crammed to the limit. *More idiots smashing your
bags to squeeze theirs into the bin. *People whining and bitching that
there's no more room. *Why don't they just put more seats and overheads
in the planes cargo hold?


They're selling that space to air-cargo shippers.


Aren't these baggage fees wonderful?


Just wait until the XMAS travel season. Far fewer flights, much higher
fares, and people won't want to pay the $15 to check luggage.
This will *be the first major travel season with the luggage fees.


I think Thanksgiving week will givew us he first clue.

If everyone brings a roller-board size carry-on then the flight attendants
will be do a lot of baggage checking right at the gate, and that will all
be fee-free.


That's a good idea. *We'll have to see what happens when that process starts
delaying departures.


I agree. I have cut down on my take along luggage and now use just a
small roll on bag. Not waiting in baggage claim is great !!!
  #5  
Old October 29th, 2008, 02:55 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Jim Davis[_1_]
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wrote in message
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On Oct 28, 9:47 am, "Jim Davis" wrote:
"SMS" wrote in message

...

Dale Norton wrote:
How 'bout that flight. Idiots slapping you with their bags in the
aisles. Overhead bins crammed to the limit. More idiots smashing your
bags to squeeze theirs into the bin. People whining and bitching that
there's no more room. Why don't they just put more seats and overheads
in the planes cargo hold?


They're selling that space to air-cargo shippers.


Aren't these baggage fees wonderful?


Just wait until the XMAS travel season. Far fewer flights, much higher
fares, and people won't want to pay the $15 to check luggage.
This will be the first major travel season with the luggage fees.


I think Thanksgiving week will givew us he first clue.

If everyone brings a roller-board size carry-on then the flight
attendants
will be do a lot of baggage checking right at the gate, and that will
all
be fee-free.


That's a good idea. We'll have to see what happens when that process
starts
delaying departures.


I agree. I have cut down on my take along luggage and now use just a
small roll on bag. Not waiting in baggage claim is great !!!


But how long will it last? Everyone is doing the same thing. I don't worry
about it myself because I get priority boarding. I'm one of the first on
the plane, so I am sitting while the rest are fighting for overhead room.


  #6  
Old October 30th, 2008, 03:16 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Dad
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"Jim Davis" wrote in message
news

wrote in message
...
On Oct 28, 9:47 am, "Jim Davis" wrote:
"SMS" wrote in message

...

Dale Norton wrote:
How 'bout that flight. Idiots slapping you with their bags in the
aisles. Overhead bins crammed to the limit. More idiots smashing your
bags to squeeze theirs into the bin. People whining and bitching that
there's no more room. Why don't they just put more seats and overheads
in the planes cargo hold?


They're selling that space to air-cargo shippers.


Aren't these baggage fees wonderful?


Just wait until the XMAS travel season. Far fewer flights, much higher
fares, and people won't want to pay the $15 to check luggage.
This will be the first major travel season with the luggage fees.


I think Thanksgiving week will givew us he first clue.

If everyone brings a roller-board size carry-on then the flight
attendants
will be do a lot of baggage checking right at the gate, and that will
all
be fee-free.


That's a good idea. We'll have to see what happens when that process
starts
delaying departures.


I agree. I have cut down on my take along luggage and now use just a
small roll on bag. Not waiting in baggage claim is great !!!


But how long will it last? Everyone is doing the same thing. I don't
worry about it myself because I get priority boarding. I'm one of the
first on the plane, so I am sitting while the rest are fighting for
overhead room.
The airlines know what size bags will fit in the bins. If you bring too big
a bag then you should be fined for delaying the boarding. When I fly with
my wife we both bring small roll on luggage that fits in the bin assigned
to our seats.


The problem is enforcing the rules. I see gigantic bags being brought on
and stuffed into the bins. Also there are the aholes who set farther back in
the plane and just have to have their luggage up front. Bring the right size
bag and put it where you sit and there are no problems.

I don't know how you would enforce the rules though. Maybe a scanner to
check your bag as they check your boarding pass.If your bag was too big then
put you to the side and make you wait.Then they should fine you for delaying
the boarding while they had your luggage checked. Also any baggage in a bin
different than the bin assigned to your seat should be taken out and
checked. The owner could then pay a fine and wait around in lost luggage to
claim their bags.

I know this will never happen and some people will always be the aholes
who screw things up. Lots of people like to blame the airlines,and they do
share some of the blame,but following two simple rules -
1) Make sure it fits
2) Put it where it belongs
and we wouldn't even be discussing this.

Happy flying to you,
Dad


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Old October 31st, 2008, 05:22 PM posted to rec.travel.air
JimL
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Default The Carry-On Crisis

On Oct 30, 10:16 am, "Dad" I _don't_ want wrote:
"Jim Davis" wrote in message

news




wrote in message
...
On Oct 28, 9:47 am, "Jim Davis" wrote:
"SMS" wrote in message


. ..


Dale Norton wrote:
How 'bout that flight. Idiots slapping you with their bags in the
aisles. Overhead bins crammed to the limit. More idiots smashing your
bags to squeeze theirs into the bin. People whining and bitching that
there's no more room. Why don't they just put more seats and overheads
in the planes cargo hold?


They're selling that space to air-cargo shippers.


Aren't these baggage fees wonderful?


Just wait until the XMAS travel season. Far fewer flights, much higher
fares, and people won't want to pay the $15 to check luggage.
This will be the first major travel season with the luggage fees.


I think Thanksgiving week will givew us he first clue.


If everyone brings a roller-board size carry-on then the flight
attendants
will be do a lot of baggage checking right at the gate, and that will
all
be fee-free.


That's a good idea. We'll have to see what happens when that process
starts
delaying departures.


I agree. I have cut down on my take along luggage and now use just a
small roll on bag. Not waiting in baggage claim is great !!!


But how long will it last? Everyone is doing the same thing. I don't
worry about it myself because I get priority boarding. I'm one of the
first on the plane, so I am sitting while the rest are fighting for
overhead room.
The airlines know what size bags will fit in the bins. If you bring too big
a bag then you should be fined for delaying the boarding. When I fly with
my wife we both bring small roll on luggage that fits in the bin assigned
to our seats.


The problem is enforcing the rules. I see gigantic bags being brought on
and stuffed into the bins. Also there are the aholes who set farther back in
the plane and just have to have their luggage up front. Bring the right size
bag and put it where you sit and there are no problems.

I don't know how you would enforce the rules though. Maybe a scanner to
check your bag as they check your boarding pass.If your bag was too big then
put you to the side and make you wait.Then they should fine you for delaying
the boarding while they had your luggage checked. Also any baggage in a bin
different than the bin assigned to your seat should be taken out and
checked. The owner could then pay a fine and wait around in lost luggage to
claim their bags.

I know this will never happen and some people will always be the aholes
who screw things up. Lots of people like to blame the airlines,and they do
share some of the blame,but following two simple rules -
1) Make sure it fits
2) Put it where it belongs
and we wouldn't even be discussing this.

Happy flying to you,
Dad



Unfortunately one overfhead bin can hold two, maybe three small bags.
That bin crosses above two rows of three seats. That's three bags per
six people!

The airlines are shooting themselves in the foot with this one. The
nuisance and delays are costly. Checking is quicker and better. WHy
penalize that? Want more revenue, raise the ticket price.

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Old November 2nd, 2008, 05:39 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.usa-canada
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On Oct 27, 1:52*pm, "Dale Norton" wrote:
How 'bout that flight. *Idiots slapping you with their bags in the aisles.
Overhead bins crammed to the limit. *More idiots smashing your bags to
squeeze theirs into the bin. *People whining and bitching that there's no
more room. *Why don't they just put more seats and overheads in the planes
cargo hold?


They like to use the hold for cargo, as this can be a money maker for
them.

Aren't these baggage fees wonderful?


Yes and no. Don't mind it on G9, as there low $29 one way fares make
up for it. Also don't mind it on DL, as I think they allow you to
check one bag for free. Of course if I flied WN more than once every
15 years I would really like them.

Michael

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Old November 2nd, 2008, 05:42 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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On Oct 31, 10:22*am, JimL wrote:
On Oct 30, 10:16 am, "Dad" I _don't_ want wrote:



"Jim Davis" wrote in message


news


wrote in message
....
On Oct 28, 9:47 am, "Jim Davis" wrote:
"SMS" wrote in message


. ..


Dale Norton wrote:
How 'bout that flight. Idiots slapping you with their bags in the
aisles. Overhead bins crammed to the limit. More idiots smashing your
bags to squeeze theirs into the bin. People whining and bitching that
there's no more room. Why don't they just put more seats and overheads
in the planes cargo hold?


They're selling that space to air-cargo shippers.


Aren't these baggage fees wonderful?


Just wait until the XMAS travel season. Far fewer flights, much higher
fares, and people won't want to pay the $15 to check luggage.
This will be the first major travel season with the luggage fees.


I think Thanksgiving week will givew us he first clue.


If everyone brings a roller-board size carry-on then the flight
attendants
will be do a lot of baggage checking right at the gate, and that will
all
be fee-free.


That's a good idea. We'll have to see what happens when that process
starts
delaying departures.


I agree. I have cut down on my take along luggage and now use just a
small roll on bag. Not waiting in baggage claim is great !!!


But how long will it last? *Everyone is doing the same thing. *I don't
worry about it myself because I get priority boarding. *I'm one of the
first on the plane, so I am sitting while the rest are fighting for
overhead room.
The airlines know what size bags will fit in the bins. If you bring too big
a bag then you should be fined for delaying the boarding. When I fly with
my wife we both bring small roll on luggage that fits in the bin assigned
to our seats.


* The problem is enforcing the rules. I see gigantic bags being brought on
and stuffed into the bins. Also there are the aholes who set farther back in
the plane and just have to have their luggage up front. Bring the right size
bag and put it where you sit and there are no problems.


*I don't know how you would enforce the rules though. Maybe a scanner to
check your bag as they check your boarding pass.If your bag was too big then
put you to the side and make you wait.Then they should fine you for delaying
the boarding while they had your luggage checked. Also any baggage in a bin
different than the bin assigned to your seat should be taken out and
checked. The owner could then pay a fine and wait around in lost luggage to
claim their bags.


* I know this will never happen and some people will always be the aholes
who screw things up. Lots of people like to blame the airlines,and they do
share some of the blame,but following two simple rules -
1) Make sure it fits
2) Put it where it belongs
and we wouldn't even be discussing this.


Happy flying to you,
* * * * *Dad


Unfortunately one overfhead bin can hold two, maybe three small bags.
That bin crosses above two rows of three seats. *That's three bags per
six people!

The airlines are shooting themselves in the foot with this one. The
nuisance and delays are costly. *Checking is quicker and better. *WHy
penalize that? *Want more revenue, raise the ticket price.


Agreed, at least for the first checked bag.

Michael

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Old November 5th, 2008, 02:30 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.usa-canada
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On Nov 2, 10:39*am, " wrote:
On Oct 27, 1:52*pm, "Dale Norton" wrote:

How 'bout that flight. *Idiots slapping you with their bags in the aisles.
Overhead bins crammed to the limit. *More idiots smashing your bags to
squeeze theirs into the bin. *People whining and bitching that there's no
more room. *Why don't they just put more seats and overheads in the planes
cargo hold?


They like to use the hold for cargo, as this can be a money maker for
them.

Aren't these baggage fees wonderful?


Yes and no. Don't mind it on G9, as there low $29 one way fares make
up for it. Also don't mind it on DL, as I think they allow you to
check one bag for free.


I guess I spoke too soon, as I just read the following.

"Atlanta-based Delta says that effective immediately, for traffic on
or after Dec. 5, customers flying within the U.S. will be charged $15
for the first checked bag and $25 for the second checked bag when
traveling domestically, consistent with Northwest's existing
policies."

Makes it sound like everyone has to pay this fee, regardless of when
you booked your ticket.

Michael




 




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