Bombs in LOndon

"The Reids" wrote in message
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It was a guess. You don't like Labour's leader, policies, or actions in
government, it would seem. There must be some reason you voted for them,
other
than some vague hope Gordon Brown will take over and completely change
direction.

I don't like various things about all the parties.

Can you name just *one* policy of Labour's you prefer to the LibDems. Then I'll
stop mythering you. Promise.

This is my prediction - Gordon's luck will run out and the economy will take
a
bit of a nosedive. House prices will fall slowly over a few years, and you
know
what effect that'll have on the dickheads in this country who think high
house
price inflation is a good thing. Tony will resign 3-4 years into Labour's
current term. Gordon will take over as Labour leader unopposed, for 6-12
months
before an election will have to be called. The Tories will win and will
remain
in power for the next 10 years+.

10 years is a long time in politics. The issues that will decide
those elections are probably not on the radar yet.
House prices will only fall over a long period if the underlying
supply and demand changes, SE prices might be overheated at
present in the short term.

But the supply and demand is, to a large extent, caused by speculators who think
it's a good investment to buy a holiday home in places like Devon and leave it
empty for 90% of the year. Or single people/couples with no kids who think it's
a good idea to buy a 4 bedroom house. The demand for housing has increased much
faster than the population over the last few decades, due to the "property per
person" increasing.

As for the Tories, they look a long way from winning, they need
to sort out a workable Europe policy that allows them to use
talented people who are not little englanders.

True, but I don't think Europe is a big issue with he electorate. The party
being seen as divided would be. The Tories did actually beat Labour in England
last election (in terms of vote %age). And they were only about 3% behind Labour
overall.

They rejected two
people who were capable of winning in favour of a series of grey
people who all looked alike, i'm still waiting to Duncan and
Smith in the same room.

True. If they have the sense to choose Ken Clarke then they'll really stand a
chance. Provided they don't start an internal war over Europe again.

I will reply as I see fit.

Could get long and boring then.... A bit like a Jeremy Paxman interview.

ROFL, what a conceit, you, the great usenet inquisitor.

I don't think Jeremy Paxman is particulary effective - asking the same question
time and time again never seems to get an answer (this is a case in point).

It sounds like you don't believe manifestos.

Well done in spotting that after all this time!

So why were you so surprised when I question your belief of the LibDem
manifesto
promise on local income tax?

you're not making a lot of sense, who said I was surprised, who
said I didn't think Lib Dems are in favour of local income tax?
Not trusting manifestos does not mean believing the opposite.

Well you either believe a particular manifesto promise or you don't.

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Andy

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:51:24 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Martin writes:

and you are more likely to be stupid and unhappy because you are poor?

Yes.

He's talking about you, stoopid!
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"Martin" wrote in message
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It sounds like you don't believe manifestos.

Does anyone?

other than Andy Pandy, who never knows when to call it a day.

As a matter of interest, do you ever post anything of substance?

Or are sarky one liners all you can manage?

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Andy

On 14 Jul 2005 00:55:38 -0700, wrote:



Martin wrote:
On 12 Jul 2005 06:59:10 -0700, wrote:



Juliana L Holm wrote:
Thanks for a laugh, I needed it. Of course I'm not a biblical literalist,
but I was a literature major in college, and had to take a huge course called
"Biblical and Classical backgrounds of Literature." Huge course, tons of
reading. This was one thing we discussed.

Julie
Who is actually a committed, progressive Christian.

My church:
http://www.lrucc.org

Why do you think that God let someone plant these bombs ?
What was he / she trying to teach us ?

God works in mysterious ways?
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Martin

I work with some people like that !

Were they all women?
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"The Reids" wrote in message
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Which UK party's MP's, out of Labour and the Liberal Democrats, and not
including the Tories, do you think would be more likely to vote for British
troops joining the Americans, should the republican party of the US decide to
invade Iran, Syria, North Korea, or any other of George W Bush's "axis of
evil"?

If Bush invaded, say, Syria I suspect all three parties would be
horrified and Blair probably realised he would be going to far to
join in, he may wish he had acted differently in the past,
certainly over the WMD fiasco. Tories, probably would have cold
feet too, Lib Dems, dead against.

You'd hope so, after the mess Iraq is in.

BTW you seem to follow the Lib Dems closely, does Kennedy have a
serious drink problem?

I don't know him personally.

This could turn into the most polite flame war ever on usenet. I await your
esteemed reply with anticipation.

What flame war? It takes two to tango.

Well it's the nearest I've had for a while. Ooh wait a minute, there was that
annoying clueless person on uk.gov.social-security. I think he was called
Martin, but it can't be the same Martin as the one here cos I've killfiled him.
And he was capable of more than one line.

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Andy

Following up to Andy Pandy

I don't like various things about all the parties.

Can you name just *one* policy of Labour's you prefer to the LibDems. Then I'll
stop mythering you. Promise.

carry on mythering by all means, whatever it is.

But the supply and demand is, to a large extent, caused by speculators who think
it's a good investment to buy a holiday home in places like Devon and leave it
empty for 90% of the year. Or single people/couples with no kids who think it's
a good idea to buy a 4 bedroom house. The demand for housing has increased much
faster than the population over the last few decades, due to the "property per
person" increasing.

holiday home buyers are not generally speculators as such
although its certainly a bad thing, demand for housing has risen
because there are far more people living alone. Also a lot of
people are buying to rent as a pension plan.

As for the Tories, they look a long way from winning, they need
to sort out a workable Europe policy that allows them to use
talented people who are not little englanders.

True, but I don't think Europe is a big issue with he electorate. The party
being seen as divided would be. The Tories did actually beat Labour in England
last election (in terms of vote %age). And they were only about 3% behind Labour
overall.

Europe is a big issue with the Tories. If it hadn't been for the
war the gap would have been much bigger.

ROFL, what a conceit, you, the great usenet inquisitor.

I don't think Jeremy Paxman is particulary effective - asking the same question
time and time again never seems to get an answer (this is a case in point).

Yep, you still haven't. He made Howard look pretty stupid, but
then he had something to hide.

you're not making a lot of sense, who said I was surprised, who
said I didn't think Lib Dems are in favour of local income tax?
Not trusting manifestos does not mean believing the opposite.

Well you either believe a particular manifesto promise or you don't.

Er, yes, I suppose so.
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Following up to The Reids

Well you either believe a particular manifesto promise or you don't.

Er, yes, I suppose so.

As I have said a few times, you put more store in manifestos than
I do, I see it as just a part of the picture, you didn't offer
any comment on Kennedys alcohol problem or lack of one. Wouldn't
want a war leader on the ****.
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Following up to Andy Pandy

BTW you seem to follow the Lib Dems closely, does Kennedy have a
serious drink problem?

I don't know him personally.

do you know Blair personally?
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"The Reids" wrote in message
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I don't like various things about all the parties.

Can you name just *one* policy of Labour's you prefer to the LibDems. Then
I'll
stop mythering you. Promise.

carry on mythering by all means, whatever it is.

It means annoying. It's a northern word.

But the supply and demand is, to a large extent, caused by speculators who
think
it's a good investment to buy a holiday home in places like Devon and leave
it
empty for 90% of the year. Or single people/couples with no kids who think
it's
a good idea to buy a 4 bedroom house. The demand for housing has increased
much
faster than the population over the last few decades, due to the "property
per
person" increasing.

holiday home buyers are not generally speculators as such
although its certainly a bad thing,

I think they are in the sense that they think they'll save on holiday rental as
well as possibly making money on the capital growth of their house. If house
prices started falling I think far fewer people would do it. In general it's a
stupid idea anyway - house price inflation has generally been less than mortgage
interest rates over the last 30+ years on average.

demand for housing has risen
because there are far more people living alone.

And often living alone in a house that could accomodate a whole family.

Also a lot of
people are buying to rent as a pension plan.

But that's not a problem as they are providing accomodation to people, meaning
those people don't have to live elsewhere. Buying to rent shouldn't increase
demand.

As for the Tories, they look a long way from winning, they need
to sort out a workable Europe policy that allows them to use
talented people who are not little englanders.

True, but I don't think Europe is a big issue with he electorate. The party
being seen as divided would be. The Tories did actually beat Labour in
England
last election (in terms of vote %age). And they were only about 3% behind
Labour
overall.

Europe is a big issue with the Tories. If it hadn't been for the
war the gap would have been much bigger.

It's a big issue with them but not the electorate. Like clause 4 (or whatever it
was) with the Labour party - voters didn't give a toss.

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Andy

"The Reids" wrote in message
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BTW you seem to follow the Lib Dems closely, does Kennedy have a
serious drink problem?

I don't know him personally.

do you know Blair personally?

Nope. I don't judge him on his private life.

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Andy