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Using electronic devices during take-off and landing
On 30/10/11 06:09, Mxsmanic wrote:
William Black writes: And when did you last do this? No flight attendant has ever made a mistake with respect to me that required being set straight. Answer the question Mixi. When did you last even speak to a flight attendant, never mind correct one. -- William Black Free men have open minds If you want loyalty, buy a dog... |
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Using electronic devices during take-off and landing
William Black writes:
When did you last even speak to a flight attendant, never mind correct one. Professionally? I don't know. I've never kept a log of my interactions with flight attendants. |
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Using electronic devices during take-off and landing
On 30/10/11 14:56, Mxsmanic wrote:
William Black writes: When did you last even speak to a flight attendant, never mind correct one. Professionally? I don't know. I've never kept a log of my interactions with flight attendants. OK, when did you last take a scheduled flight on a commercial airline? -- William Black Free men have open minds If you want loyalty, buy a dog... |
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Air travel - carrying excess of $10k or equivalent
On 10/23/2011 9:41 PM, Fly Guy wrote:
What makes air travel entering or leaving the US any different than car travel between states? Why does the US federal gov't have an interest in whether or not you are bringing or leaving the country with more than $10k any more than a state gov't would want to know the same thing? Gee, d'ya think money laundering might be a concern? There are already reporting rules on the bank pertaining to depositing large sums (coincidentally $10k) into any US bank. Which is irrelevant, because the cash sums that exceed $10,000 can be easily broken down into unreportable sums. If possession of cash or cash equivalent is legal (and the last time I checked - it was) then how can you justify a rule requiring you to tell the gov't how much you have on your person IN ANY SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE FORCED TO INTERACT WITH THE GOV'T ? Where is it "any situation" and not just air and/or international travel? If the gov't believes that you are in possession of the proceeds of crime, then the onus is on them to investigate, arrest and charge you - AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. Why is that right somehow magically erased at the airport? The right to remain silent is not erased. Just your "right" to fly. |
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Using electronic devices during take-off and landing
On 10/21/2011 8:50 PM, Fly Guy wrote:
mag3 wrote: I thought things were actually getting *more* strict. No. Things are getting less strict. When my entire body is being scanned down to the skin, that is far different from "getting less strict." |
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Air travel - carrying excess of $10k or equivalent
Sancho Panza wrote:
Why does the US federal gov't have an interest in whether or not you are bringing or leaving the country with more than $10k any more than a state gov't would want to know the same thing? Gee, d'ya think money laundering might be a concern? Transporting cash (or cash equivalent) between places is not money laundering. There are already reporting rules on the bank pertaining to depositing large sums (coincidentally $10k) into any US bank. Which is irrelevant, because the cash sums that exceed $10,000 can be easily broken down into unreportable sums. And the same goes for transporting cash. If the gov't believes that you are in possession of the proceeds of crime, then the onus is on them to investigate, arrest and charge you - AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. Why is that right somehow magically erased at the airport? The right to remain silent is not erased. Just your "right" to fly. Your flying is done and finished by the time you walk up to a CBP agent. That agent does not act as any sort of gate-keeper who gets between you and the plane. |
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Using electronic devices during take-off and landing
Sancho Panza wrote:
I thought things were actually getting *more* strict. No. Things are getting less strict. When my entire body is being scanned down to the skin, that is far different from "getting less strict." Your not quoting the entire context of that conversation, nor my complete reply. Here, let me help you: ============ I thought things were actually getting *more* strict. No. Things are getting less strict. Remember when there was secondary screening at the gate? When was the last time you saw that? ============ I flew last week from LA to Seattle, and then from Seattle to Vancouver. I was not asked or even offered to be body-scanned. In fact, I did not see one of those mm-wave scanners in the security areas I went through. |
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Air travel - carrying excess of $10k or equivalent
On 10/30/2011 11:56 PM, Fly Guy wrote:
Sancho Panza wrote: Why does the US federal gov't have an interest in whether or not you are bringing or leaving the country with more than $10k any more than a state gov't would want to know the same thing? Gee, d'ya think money laundering might be a concern? Transporting cash (or cash equivalent) between places is not money laundering. Your question was a reason for the government's interest. Laundering is a major reason for that interest, and laundering is often carried out through transporting cash. There are already reporting rules on the bank pertaining to depositing large sums (coincidentally $10k) into any US bank. Which is irrelevant, because the cash sums that exceed $10,000 can be easily broken down into unreportable sums. And the same goes for transporting cash. The problem is that some couriers would prefer or try to carry more than legal amount. If you have a problem with that, communicate it to your legislator. If the gov't believes that you are in possession of the proceeds of crime, then the onus is on them to investigate, arrest and charge you - AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. Why is that right somehow magically erased at the airport? The right to remain silent is not erased. Just your "right" to fly. Your flying is done and finished by the time you walk up to a CBP agent. That agent does not act as any sort of gate-keeper who gets between you and the plane. You always have the right to remain silent. That does not include to right to expect that you will not be detained in some fashion if you refuse to cooperate with the authorities' requests. Of course, one can always summon a lawyer and await his counsel. |
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Using electronic devices during take-off and landing
On 10/31/2011 12:01 AM, Fly Guy wrote:
Sancho Panza wrote: I thought things were actually getting *more* strict. No. Things are getting less strict. When my entire body is being scanned down to the skin, that is far different from "getting less strict." Your not quoting the entire context of that conversation, nor my complete reply. Here, let me help you: ============ I thought things were actually getting *more* strict. No. Things are getting less strict. Remember when there was secondary screening at the gate? When was the last time you saw that? ============ I flew last week from LA to Seattle, and then from Seattle to Vancouver. I was not asked or even offered to be body-scanned. In fact, I did not see one of those mm-wave scanners in the security areas I went through. Apparently the TSA does not consider them priority locations. But those who interested in such data thank you for posting the useful information worldwide. |
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Using electronic devices during take-off and landing
Sancho Panza writes:
Apparently the TSA does not consider them priority locations. But those who interested in such data thank you for posting the useful information worldwide. Yeah, they never would have had any way of knowing if not for that post, right? Who cares? Fear is the enemy of freedom. |
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