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(OT) On Crossposting (was (0T) A prayer for Fred)
Thanks Bob
But to set the record straight, It started when Sheriff Roland and his kilt and thong came into town to lecture us on the use of usenet. His post was off topic. I told him so in my own charming way. He went off on me. I do not expect you to read all the posts, but I know you know whats up. If you do read all his posts, I make Ted Bundy look like a grade school teacher. I'm not bitching. All he has to do is admit he crossed posted and posted off topic. With that said, I told the good Sheriff that maybe he ought to go and arrest goldenberg or put a stop to his spamming like he tried to complain to my ISP the I was bugging him. I am a victem what more can I say. The guy hates me as bad as dickhead. Must be my charming ways. I just found out that, according to the Sheriff, that I am not welcome on any GGC activities. I smell a civil action, class action discrimination. I thought it was open to all who participate here on RTC even us TROLL's. Just like the big party out in , sorry I am not aloud to disclose the whereabouts of the Sheriff's house. |
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(OT) On Crossposting (was (0T) A prayer for Fred)
F wrote:
Thanks Bob But to set the record straight, It started when Sheriff Roland and his kilt and thong came into town to lecture us on the use of usenet. His post was off topic. I told him so in my own charming way. He went off on me. I do not expect you to read all the posts, but I know you know whats up. If you do read all his posts, I make Ted Bundy look like a grade school teacher. I'm not bitching. All he has to do is admit he crossed posted and posted off topic. With that said, I told the good Sheriff that maybe he ought to go and arrest goldenberg or put a stop to his spamming like he tried to complain to my ISP the I was bugging him. I am a victem what more can I say. The guy hates me as bad as dickhead. Must be my charming ways. I just found out that, according to the Sheriff, that I am not welcome on any GGC activities. I smell a civil action, class action discrimination. I thought it was open to all who participate here on RTC even us TROLL's. Just like the big party out in , sorry I am not aloud to disclose the whereabouts of the Sheriff's house. Let us just tear apart Fred's writing style. He is writing in a hate filled, inflamatory style, meant to provote emotions, and flame filled response. He started attacking me a little over a year ago when I volunteereed to chair the GGC, and he has continued this hostility toward me since that time. From others that have worked on the GGC's, and other groups cruises in the past, he has also treated them in like manors. Now, ... kilt and thong? hmm. He has not clue. All I did was make an attempt to point out what that the travel agents were doing was not what was correct. Fred seems to have a problem dealing with people. He is juvenille, and if you look at his posts over time, his posts have degenerated over the years from comprehensive to the juvenille posts he makes like the one above. At one time he made intelligent posts in some groups. Now he seems to be on a crusade to end anything where people get together to have fun. roland |
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(OT) On Crossposting (was (0T) A prayer for Fred)
Lloyd Parsons wrote: In article .com, "Reef Fish" wrote: In the mid 1990s there were some SPAMMERS in rec.scuba who were not nearly as blatent as Ray, and after several years of campaign to rid those "cretins", let by Jim Greenlee, Chuck Norad, and a few others, with slogans like BOYCOTT CRETINS THAT RUDELY ADVERTISE IN USENET DISCUSSION GROUPS and BOYCOTT BUSINESSES THAT RUDELY ADVERTISE IN USENET DISCUSSION GROUPS rec.scuba has become a spam-free group beause as soon as someone tries to spam there, he would have been told by the old-timers that he is not welcome in that group and that he would LOSE more business than he could gain by spamming there. That's the way it SHOULD be, according all Netiquette Tips and Roadmaps. Having read rec.travel.cruises for a year or three now, never have I seen so many spammed by so few and tolerated by so many. For whatever Roland and Fred were quibbling about, Fred was spot on when he told Roland that Ray Goldenberg should take SPAMS to marketing ngs for selling Ray's goods or spams. -- Bob. Hi, Bob. Since it is too cold for golf, I decided to go over to this relatively spam free group rec.scuba. You are right, there really is little spam there. Glad to see you confirmed the obvious. But the troll level is unreal! If I didn't know I was in a scuba group, I'd think I was in a political group. Heck an honest spammer wouldn't even be noticed there! ;-) Lloyd That's correct ALSO. It's now all people who DON'T dive (enough) and argue about GUNS and POLITICS. You didn't see ME in any of those arguments. did you? I am one of the few in rec.scuba.locations who still scuba and discuss scuba, only to be disrupted (you might call it "trolled if you wish) by members of the "Dysfunctional Gang" of that group, who had long been named and fingerprinted? :-) But no spam there either. Oh spammers get notice alright! In fact, some folks in this group wonder why folks there were so harsh after just ONE POST by a spammer! -- Bob. |
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(OT) On Crossposting (was (0T) A prayer for Fred)
piperut wrote: Reef Fish wrote: Having read rec.travel.cruises for a year or three now, never have I seen so many spammed by so few and tolerated by so many. For whatever Roland and Fred were quibbling about, Fred was spot on when he told Roland that Ray Goldenberg should take SPAMS to marketing ngs for selling Ray's goods or spams. -- Bob. Bob, You are attempting to put words in my mouth. How so? I was making ONE POINT, and only ONE POINT, that Ray Goldenberg has no business spamming in rec.travel.cruise! I said "for whatever Roand and Fred were quibbling about", Fred was spot on when "he told Roland" ... I said what Fred told YOU. Not a word about what YOU said. It didn't matter to me whatever you said. I thought you were arguing about the druids. As I said I learned only later that Ray Goldenberg was deep that pile of rubbles you two were argueing about. snip .sig files are a time honored traditon of Usenet, roland That's correct. So is my use of "Reef Fish" as a posting name. But Spammer Ray jumped all over that and equated my posting with an "anonymous re-mailer" that people have used to hide their identity. If Ray had used the SAME sig file, but engage in regular DISCUSSIONS within the group about various travel questions raised by discussants, I would have had no problem with his posts. The difference is that he is using his "I have this press release ..." as a thinly disguised prop for his SPAM that made his sig file a non-issue. He is SPAMMING this group, at the rate of half a dozen or spams served everyday. When he was actually discussing the Manhatten pier for the Princess cruiseship with a clueless Old Lady, offering NON- information (that later turned out to be FALSE information as well) that I asked him about his reference to the Liberty port. He didn't answer, nor did anyone else in the group. So I just took about an hour of my time phoing a few places and came back with the SOLID and EXPLICIT info about how to come and go to hte pier from the Newark airport (the EASIEST thing in the world when the Old Ladies were making it as if it would take hours to come or go. It took me less than an hour. So, I posted the INFO for future cruisers going to that Mahattan port. And Dickhead Goldhaber flamed me for asking Ray an honest QUESTION and getting a silent reply. Other posters had indicated they had phoned Ray, and was told that Ray would answer only if they PAY. Now if THAT is not SPAMMING and the act of a SPAMMING TA who would not lift his tiny finger to help anyone, I don't know WHAT this cretin Ray could be called. Get the picture? My post was, and is, all about Ray's SPAMMING. Now I leave it back to you and Fred to fight out about whatever you were fighting above. -- Bob. |
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(OT) On Crossposting (was (0T) A prayer for Fred)
Reef Fish wrote:
piperut wrote: Reef Fish wrote: Having read rec.travel.cruises for a year or three now, never have I seen so many spammed by so few and tolerated by so many. For whatever Roland and Fred were quibbling about, Fred was spot on when he told Roland that Ray Goldenberg should take SPAMS to marketing ngs for selling Ray's goods or spams. -- Bob. Bob, You are attempting to put words in my mouth. How so? I was making ONE POINT, and only ONE POINT, that Ray Goldenberg has no business spamming in rec.travel.cruise! I said "for whatever Roand and Fred were quibbling about", Fred was spot on when "he told Roland" ... I said what Fred told YOU. Not a word about what YOU said. It didn't matter to me whatever you said. I thought you were arguing about the druids. As I said I learned only later that Ray Goldenberg was deep that pile of rubbles you two were argueing about. snip .sig files are a time honored traditon of Usenet, roland That's correct. So is my use of "Reef Fish" as a posting name. But Spammer Ray jumped all over that and equated my posting with an "anonymous re-mailer" that people have used to hide their identity. If Ray had used the SAME sig file, but engage in regular DISCUSSIONS within the group about various travel questions raised by discussants, I would have had no problem with his posts. The difference is that he is using his "I have this press release ..." as a thinly disguised prop for his SPAM that made his sig file a non-issue. He is SPAMMING this group, at the rate of half a dozen or spams served everyday. When he was actually discussing the Manhatten pier for the Princess cruiseship with a clueless Old Lady, offering NON- information (that later turned out to be FALSE information as well) that I asked him about his reference to the Liberty port. He didn't answer, nor did anyone else in the group. So I just took about an hour of my time phoing a few places and came back with the SOLID and EXPLICIT info about how to come and go to hte pier from the Newark airport (the EASIEST thing in the world when the Old Ladies were making it as if it would take hours to come or go. It took me less than an hour. So, I posted the INFO for future cruisers going to that Mahattan port. And Dickhead Goldhaber flamed me for asking Ray an honest QUESTION and getting a silent reply. Other posters had indicated they had phoned Ray, and was told that Ray would answer only if they PAY. Now if THAT is not SPAMMING and the act of a SPAMMING TA who would not lift his tiny finger to help anyone, I don't know WHAT this cretin Ray could be called. Get the picture? My post was, and is, all about Ray's SPAMMING. Now I leave it back to you and Fred to fight out about whatever you were fighting above. -- Bob. Hi Bob, My point was, the travel agents should be putting their .sig files at the end of their posts, not in their the body of the text and Ray and some other travel agents are doing. Fred found my post to be off topic. I disagree with that. I think bringing the travel agent back around to how they should be posting is on topic. Fred does not. Difference of taste. He is a bit hot headed, and his posts are inflamatory, if you read them. Most people do not on rec.travel.cruises. Now, he keeps trying to say I am a "Johnny come lately", or that I am new to rec.travel.cruises. If you look at the history, or the final voting results from the origional RFD and CFV, you will find just what names are on in them, and who's name is not there. Fred started this personal attack on me when I decided to chair the GGC2006, and has not really let up. He also posts misinformation about rec.travel.cruises in the form a "qoutes from a fake charter" he has made up from time to time. A person with that much hate built up inside himself toward the world must really hate himself as a person! roland |
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(OT) On Crossposting (was (0T) A prayer for Fred)
"piperut" wrote in message ups.com... F wrote: Thanks Bob But to set the record straight, It started when Sheriff Roland and his kilt and thong came into town to lecture us on the use of usenet. His post was off topic. I told him so in my own charming way. He went off on me. I do not expect you to read all the posts, but I know you know whats up. If you do read all his posts, I make Ted Bundy look like a grade school teacher. I'm not bitching. All he has to do is admit he crossed posted and posted off topic. With that said, I told the good Sheriff that maybe he ought to go and arrest goldenberg or put a stop to his spamming like he tried to complain to my ISP the I was bugging him. I am a victem what more can I say. The guy hates me as bad as dickhead. Must be my charming ways. I just found out that, according to the Sheriff, that I am not welcome on any GGC activities. I smell a civil action, class action discrimination. I thought it was open to all who participate here on RTC even us TROLL's. Just like the big party out in , sorry I am not aloud to disclose the whereabouts of the Sheriff's house. Let us just tear apart Fred's writing style. He is writing in a hate filled, inflamatory style, meant to provote emotions, and flame filled response. He started attacking me a little over a year ago when I volunteereed to chair the GGC, and he has continued this hostility toward me since that time. From others that have worked on the GGC's, and other groups cruises in the past, he has also treated them in like manors. Now, ... kilt and thong? hmm. He has not clue. All I did was make an attempt to point out what that the travel agents were doing was not what was correct. Fred seems to have a problem dealing with people. He is juvenille, and if you look at his posts over time, his posts have degenerated over the years from comprehensive to the juvenille posts he makes like the one above. At one time he made intelligent posts in some groups. Now he seems to be on a crusade to end anything where people get together to have fun. roland Last Word |
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(OT) On Crossposting (was (0T) A prayer for Fred)
"Reef Fish" wrote in message
oups.com... And Dickhead Goldhaber flamed me for asking Ray an honest QUESTION and getting a silent reply. Dear Pond Scum, I allowed the first three times you called me "Dickhead" within the last 24 hours to pass. The fourth, quoted here, just proves once again that you cannot get along with anyone except a moron like Fred. You are currently in a ****ing contest with several folks on rec.scuba.locations so I guess it is simply a case of "everyone is out of step but you". And as for my "flaming" you, you would have to understand English to know when you have been flamed. Please read the following and then let me know, without altering any of the posts which we all know is your trademark, which one of us was nasty. http://tinyurl.com/bzt5w Another exercise in futility with my buddy, Pond Scum. |
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(OT) On Crossposting (was (0T) A prayer for Fred)
Dick G. wrote: "Reef Fish" wrote in message oups.com... And Dickhead Goldhaber flamed me for asking Ray an honest QUESTION and getting a silent reply. Dear Pond Scum, For someone who calls me "Pond Scum", you are at best "pot calling kettle black". In fact, I called you Dick MANY times until you've proven to be worthy of the name OTHERS had called you before I did, "Dickhead". You are currently in a ****ing contest with several folks on rec.scuba.locations so I guess it is simply a case of "everyone is out of step but you". Wrong again! READ the threads and see who ARE doing the ****ing. I was there clubbing their heads just like I club YOUR head here and elsewhere when you act like a IDIOT. And as for my "flaming" you, you would have to understand English to know when you have been flamed. Trust me. I understand English at least 10 times better than Dickhead aka Dick, aka Richard, akd Dick G to conceal his Goldhaber ill repute Goldhaber, because I know how to read IN CONTEXT, read with a logical mind, and read for comprehension of SUBSTANCE. Please read the following and then let me know, without altering any of the posts which we all know is your trademark, which one of us was nasty. http://tinyurl.com/bzt5w Geez, my first thought was IDIOT Goldhaber had picked a post for his self-serving support, until I saw it was a thread, which showed Dickhead in his TRUE COLOR, escalating calling me "Pond Scum" to "Major Pond Scum". Then, DG Mundane, you cross posting a$$hole? DG DG You, king of cruising to faraway places, places where none of us DG us will ever go, are now bitching about being screwed out of DG Princess Cay You're rather presumptious about "places where none of us will ever go", and even you God Ray Goldenberg will tell you how wrong you are because French Polynesia (including Tahiti), Alaska, Australia, and Easter, Western, and Southern Caribbean cruises are just a few of the places I cruised and Goldberger SPAMMED. Another exercise in futility with my buddy, Pond Scum. You've learned the term "exercise in tutulity" from me, didn't you? Google sez Dick Goldhaver NEVER used that term. Dick G used it exactly once -- here. Reef Fish used that term in 15 threads, most of which teaching the PROFESSIONS in the subject of Statistics how they erred, and why what they did was "an exercise in futility". Well, DIckhead, at least you LEARNED something from me. What you have exhibited is just another instance of you shooting your own foot! You are good for a laugh though, besides those acts of foot-shooting. For someone who calls me "Pond Scum", "Major Pond Scum", and "S$$hole", you have the chutzpah to whine about me calling you "Dickhead". I don't have to explain the meaning of the Yiddish term "chutzpah" to you though. Next time you try to flame me, leave your shooting gun at home, and come armed with some FACTS about travel and cruising, and if you wish to start a flamewar, make sure you have some weapon to flame with. I hate to bust a 72-year-old skull of an ignorant, pill-popping-moron, who is trying hard to change his posting ID to run away from his idiotic posts under the posting name of Dick Goldhaber. -- Bob. The one-and-only "Reef Fish" in USENET since 1981. |
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(OT) On Crossposting (was (0T) A prayer for Fred)
"Dick G." dickdotgoldhaber@gmaildotcom wrote in message ... "Reef Fish" wrote in message oups.com... And Dickhead Goldhaber flamed me for asking Ray an honest QUESTION and getting a silent reply. Dear Pond Scum, I allowed the first three times you called me "Dickhead" within the last 24 hours to pass. The fourth, quoted here, just proves once again that you cannot get along with anyone except a moron like Fred. You are currently in a ****ing contest with several folks on rec.scuba.locations so I guess it is simply a case of "everyone is out of step but you". And as for my "flaming" you, you would have to understand English to know when you have been flamed. Please read the following and then let me know, without altering any of the posts which we all know is your trademark, which one of us was nasty. http://tinyurl.com/bzt5w Another exercise in futility with my buddy, Pond Scum. That ethnic nose problem again. |
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