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Mom, baby booted from plane
Duh_OZ wrote:
Full story: http://www.wsoctv.com/family/13668816/detail.html Snip: GWINNETT COUNTY, Ga. -- A Georgia mother said she wants answers and action after she and her baby were kicked off a plane. Mom, Babbling Baby Booted From Plane Kate Penland said she was glad to board the plane in Houston to visit her father in Oklahoma after an 11-hour delay. But she said a rude and aggressive flight attendant caused her to get to Oklahoma a day late. Penland thinks her 19-month-old son, Garren, has a bubbly personality. But Penland said when they were aboard a Continental Express plane, a flight attendant became annoyed by Garren's personality when he kept saying three words. "As we started taxiing, he started saying, 'Bye, bye plane,'" said Penland. "At the end of her speech, she leaned over the gentleman beside me and said, 'It's not funny anymore. You need to shut your baby up.'" Before you jump to conclusions, consider this: In an age of terrorism after 9-11, every flight attendant is terrified of hearing "Bye, bye plane!" from any passenger. Before you start giggling that this was only a baby babbling this, consider: The flight attendant may have been nervous that the baby was parroting something he had heard about the destruction of the plane from his parents. Little kids pick up stuff they have heard from adults. If someone had brought a pet parrot to the airport in a bird cage, and as Flight 23 is boarding, the parrot starts squawking "Bomb on Flight 23! Bomb on Flight 23!" over and over, wouldn't YOU be nervous and want that person questioned? -- Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. |
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Mom, baby booted from plane
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:43:56 -0500, Hilary
wrote: Has anyone seen the FA deny what the mother reported? My guess is that the FA was wrong but in fairness, I doubt that she is going to be allowed to make a statement at this point. |
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Mom, baby booted from plane
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:05:13 GMT, Craig Welch
wrote: Steven L. wrote: Before you jump to conclusions, consider this: In an age of terrorism after 9-11, every flight attendant is terrified of hearing "Bye, bye plane!" from any passenger. Before you start giggling that this was only a baby babbling this, consider: The flight attendant may have been nervous that the baby was parroting something he had heard about the destruction of the plane from his parents. Little kids pick up stuff they have heard from adults. Only a stewardess with a mental age of 12 would think and react that way. "Only a stewardess'! Your age is showing, and your prejudice! |
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Mom, baby booted from plane
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:58:33 GMT, Craig Welch
wrote: irwell wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:05:13 GMT, Craig Welch wrote: Steven L. wrote: Before you jump to conclusions, consider this: In an age of terrorism after 9-11, every flight attendant is terrified of hearing "Bye, bye plane!" from any passenger. Before you start giggling that this was only a baby babbling this, consider: The flight attendant may have been nervous that the baby was parroting something he had heard about the destruction of the plane from his parents. Little kids pick up stuff they have heard from adults. Only a stewardess with a mental age of 12 would think and react that way. "Only a stewardess'! Your age is showing, and your prejudice! As is your ability to mis-quote. I didn't say 'only a stewardess' in a diminutive manner, such as 'she is only a stewardess'. I said 'only a stewardess with ... '. The implication is clear. I might equally as well have said, in a different context, 'only a rocket scientist who reads the New Yorker would ...'. Flight attendant is the preferred term these days. |
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Mom, baby booted from plane
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:24:53 GMT, Craig Welch
wrote: irwell wrote: Flight attendant is the preferred term these days. Ah, I didn't realise you were off on a political correctness bent. I must advise you that for much of the civilised world, political correctness has fortunately not as yet gained traction. Nothing political about it, just showing your ignorance of the real world situation. |
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Mom, baby booted from plane
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:23:45 GMT, Craig Welch
wrote: irwell wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:24:53 GMT, Craig Welch wrote: irwell wrote: Flight attendant is the preferred term these days. Ah, I didn't realise you were off on a political correctness bent. I must advise you that for much of the civilised world, political correctness has fortunately not as yet gained traction. Nothing political about it, just showing your ignorance of the real world situation. Nothing 'political'? Ah, so you don't know what PC is. Fair enough. 'Real world' situation? All of the stewardesses I know call themselves stewardesses. That's as 'real world' as it gets. When was the last time you ever took a flight? |
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Mom, baby booted from plane
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:41:32 GMT, Craig Welch
wrote: 'Real world' situation? All of the stewardesses I know call themselves stewardesses. That's as 'real world' as it gets. When was the last time you ever took a flight? Domestic? Last week. International? Two months ago. So, did you have professional Flight Attendants, or your bimboesque stewardesses? |
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Mom, baby booted from plane
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:14:45 -0700, irwell wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:41:32 GMT, Craig Welch wrote: So, did you have professional Flight Attendants, or your bimboesque stewardesses? Didn't the latter die out from liaisons with bimboesque stewards? DaveM |
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Mom, baby booted from plane
Before you jump to conclusions, consider this: In an age of terrorism after 9-11, every flight attendant is terrified of hearing "Bye, bye plane!" from any passenger. This has nothing to do with terrorism, and everything to do with the climate of fear which is being encouraged by the US government (and I'm not blaming Republicans or Democrats alone - I blame both parties). The "no-fly" list, the ridiculous screening procedures, and the over-reactions to any passenger who doesn't sit meekly in his or her seat and accept gross derelictions of service (such as 4 hour waits on the tarmac or 11-hour flight delays such as Ms. Penland had endured) - they are all part and parcel of the continuing erosion of American civil liberties. As a teenager, I watched the Watergate hearings, and I thought that, even though Nixon had done many good things IMHO, this was America at its greatest. Nixon had clearly broken the law, and even though he was the most powerful man on the planet, he wasn't above the law. Now, laws don't seem to enter the picture. People with as little statutory power as a flight attendant can arbitrarily disrupt the lives of innocent citizens, and threaten them with either leaving a flight or drugging a child. I challenge you, Mr. Litvintchouk, to show me anywhere a regulation that allows a flight attendant to *REQUIRE* any pax to take a non-prescribed sedative at any time. I grieve for the America I so admired. I hope it returns soon before it degenerates into an Orwellian nightmare. KevinB |
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Mom, baby booted from plane
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:27:38 GMT, Craig Welch
wrote: irwell wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:41:32 GMT, Craig Welch wrote: 'Real world' situation? All of the stewardesses I know call themselves stewardesses. That's as 'real world' as it gets. When was the last time you ever took a flight? Domestic? Last week. International? Two months ago. So, did you have professional Flight Attendants, or your bimboesque stewardesses? Professional Stewardesses. Did you get a chance to ask them what union they belong to? |
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