Clueless first-timer needs advice about cruises please

Juliana L Holm wrote:

Not a single person has said ever in this thread that you MUST have a tux.
Why is that what you always return to? It's not true that you must have
a tux. It may be true you need slacks and a jacket. Or just slacks.

And a tie for formal evenings.

RTCReferee wrote:
Sue and Kevin Mullen wrote:


It is also possible to rent a tux through the cruise line, so you don't
have to pack one.


Yes, thanks for reminding us, Sue. That would certainly save on packing for
the original poster, and it's not an expensive option.

Kevin doesn't own a tux, I won't let him buy one untill his size is
stable. He has rented a couple of times and it has worked out very well.

sue

RTCReferee wrote:
Sue and Kevin Mullen wrote:


It is also possible to rent a tux through the cruise line, so you don't
have to pack one.


Yes, thanks for reminding us, Sue. That would certainly save on packing for
the original poster, and it's not an expensive option.

Kevin doesn't own a tux, I won't let him buy one untill his size is
stable. He has rented a couple of times and it has worked out very well.

sue

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:47:01 -0400, Sue and Kevin Mullen
wrote:

Kevin doesn't own a tux, I won't let him buy one untill his size is
stable.

Hi Sue,

That would prevent some of us from ever buying a tux. vbg

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:47:01 -0400, Sue and Kevin Mullen
wrote:

Kevin doesn't own a tux, I won't let him buy one untill his size is
stable.

Hi Sue,

That would prevent some of us from ever buying a tux. vbg

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com

"dm" wrote:

Younger folks tend to dislike being required to dress up. The trend is to
provide more flexibility so that those who wish to dress up can, and those
that don't want to don't have to.

Dressing up or down is not age-related.

Many cruise lines are now providing more flexible dining options including
RCCL, NCL, Princess which includes alternate dining options. Some dining
options are more formal, usually at least one casual venue is provided.

This is a good thing so that those who don't want to dress up when the
requested attire for the main dining room is formal can dine elsewhere.

Then of course there are the snobs that want to require everyone on the
ship to dress up otherwise it ruins their whole cruise experience.

It has nothing to do with snobbery. It relates to manners and courtesy.

I wouldn't worry about them, its their problem not yours.

Being a "good neighbor" is not a concept you've mastered, is it?

"dm" wrote:

Younger folks tend to dislike being required to dress up. The trend is to
provide more flexibility so that those who wish to dress up can, and those
that don't want to don't have to.

Dressing up or down is not age-related.

Many cruise lines are now providing more flexible dining options including
RCCL, NCL, Princess which includes alternate dining options. Some dining
options are more formal, usually at least one casual venue is provided.

This is a good thing so that those who don't want to dress up when the
requested attire for the main dining room is formal can dine elsewhere.

Then of course there are the snobs that want to require everyone on the
ship to dress up otherwise it ruins their whole cruise experience.

It has nothing to do with snobbery. It relates to manners and courtesy.

I wouldn't worry about them, its their problem not yours.

Being a "good neighbor" is not a concept you've mastered, is it?

Bob Thomas wrote:

Just for the record ... one more time .... I was never on about shorts
(that was another poster). I don't even carry shorts with me on this
cruise!

Ahem, Bob, please let me refresh your memory, as * I * was the person you flamed
with your shorts post. Here is the exchange in its entirety:

John & Beverly wrote:
We just returned from 7 nights on the Legend of the Seas, and fully a third
of the diners each night were wearing shorts in the main dining room. I was
surprised.

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 02:19:11 GMT, Peri
wrote

John, I'm surprised as well. And disappointed. We're leaving on the Legend at
the end of the month, and I'd really hate to have the atmosphere in the dining
room cheapened in that way.

~ Peri ---- hoping John's cruise was an aberration


I haven't yet embarked on my first cruise ... but I must say I find
the "dress" aspect to be the most offputting. My idea of a holiday is
to relax and enjoy myself, and if there are those who are so full of
it that a relaxed person in shorts "cheapens" their experience, then
I'd have to say there is something inherently wrong with that approach
to holidaying.

This, to me, is the same as those who treat waiters as some sort of
sub-species, instead of ordinary people doing a valuable job.

Sorry if *this* offends ... but really, snobbishness gets up my nose!

Bob T.


I'm happy to take your current back-pedaling as an apology.

~ Peri

Bob Thomas wrote:

Just for the record ... one more time .... I was never on about shorts
(that was another poster). I don't even carry shorts with me on this
cruise!

Ahem, Bob, please let me refresh your memory, as * I * was the person you flamed
with your shorts post. Here is the exchange in its entirety:

John & Beverly wrote:
We just returned from 7 nights on the Legend of the Seas, and fully a third
of the diners each night were wearing shorts in the main dining room. I was
surprised.

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 02:19:11 GMT, Peri
wrote

John, I'm surprised as well. And disappointed. We're leaving on the Legend at
the end of the month, and I'd really hate to have the atmosphere in the dining
room cheapened in that way.

~ Peri ---- hoping John's cruise was an aberration


I haven't yet embarked on my first cruise ... but I must say I find
the "dress" aspect to be the most offputting. My idea of a holiday is
to relax and enjoy myself, and if there are those who are so full of
it that a relaxed person in shorts "cheapens" their experience, then
I'd have to say there is something inherently wrong with that approach
to holidaying.

This, to me, is the same as those who treat waiters as some sort of
sub-species, instead of ordinary people doing a valuable job.

Sorry if *this* offends ... but really, snobbishness gets up my nose!

Bob T.


I'm happy to take your current back-pedaling as an apology.

~ Peri

"Bob Thomas" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 02:07:19 GMT, "Tom & Linda"
wrote:


That's going to have to do for me ..... I don't even *own* a tux, and
would wear a suit maybe once a year at most. My suits go out of style
before they ever wear out.


Most suits don't fit anymore long before they go out of style.

Plus... a nice navy or black 2 button suit never goes out of style.

I'm thinking of buying a navy jacket for the occasion .... my
concession to the formal set. 8*)


Can I offer an alternative.

Black.

Then add one of the tux type shirts that don't require a tie. Like with the
button in the front. Or one of the nice knit semi-turtleneck shirts.

--Tom