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Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled
Just read that Carnival has canceled the scheduled cruises for 2009 in
Europe on the Freedom. I wonder if they'll be more to follow? Bill -- Visit my Caribbean Princess website: www.cruisingthecaribbeanprincess.com |
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Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled
I sure hope so because maybe we'll get some year around cruises back in
Texas. All we have now is the Conquest down on the Island. We have the "Taj Mahal on the (Houston) Ship Channel" aka "The boondoggle to get a bond issue passed for more container ports" to offer as a terminal. Tucker in Texas Bill C wrote: Just read that Carnival has canceled the scheduled cruises for 2009 in Europe on the Freedom. I wonder if they'll be more to follow? Bill |
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Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled
That is very interesting because there have been recent articles in the
Washington Post and US News about how the American cruise lines are switching ships to Europe to cater to the increasing demand there. One of the ships mentioned was the Freedom, so it makes me curious as to why there is this reversal in plans. "Richard Whitlock" wrote in message . .. I sure hope so because maybe we'll get some year around cruises back in Texas. All we have now is the Conquest down on the Island. We have the "Taj Mahal on the (Houston) Ship Channel" aka "The boondoggle to get a bond issue passed for more container ports" to offer as a terminal. Tucker in Texas Bill C wrote: Just read that Carnival has canceled the scheduled cruises for 2009 in Europe on the Freedom. I wonder if they'll be more to follow? Bill |
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Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled
Harry Jones wrote:
That is very interesting because there have been recent articles in the Washington Post and US News about how the American cruise lines are switching ships to Europe to cater to the increasing demand there. One of the ships mentioned was the Freedom, so it makes me curious as to why there is this reversal in plans. "Richard Whitlock" wrote in message . .. I sure hope so because maybe we'll get some year around cruises back in Texas. All we have now is the Conquest down on the Island. We have the "Taj Mahal on the (Houston) Ship Channel" aka "The boondoggle to get a bond issue passed for more container ports" to offer as a terminal. Tucker in Texas Bill C wrote: Just read that Carnival has canceled the scheduled cruises for 2009 in Europe on the Freedom. I wonder if they'll be more to follow? Bill just did a check on kayak.com for airfare and airfare to Rome is $1200 pp from Philadelphia. I think this must have had quite a bit to do with the decision. Bill -- Visit my Caribbean Princess website: www.cruisingthecaribbeanprincess.com |
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Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:50:38 -0400, "Harry Jones"
wrote: That is very interesting because there have been recent articles in the Washington Post and US News about how the American cruise lines are switching ships to Europe to cater to the increasing demand there. One of the ships mentioned was the Freedom, so it makes me curious as to why there is this reversal in plans. Hi Harry, Please see my posting from June 7th where I explain why the cruise lines are making the adjustments. It is in the thread "Carnival Freedom from Ft. Lauderdale!". Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com -- |
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Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled
[Default] Thus spake Bill C :
Harry Jones wrote: That is very interesting because there have been recent articles in the Washington Post and US News about how the American cruise lines are switching ships to Europe to cater to the increasing demand there. One of the ships mentioned was the Freedom, so it makes me curious as to why there is this reversal in plans. "Richard Whitlock" wrote in message . .. I sure hope so because maybe we'll get some year around cruises back in Texas. All we have now is the Conquest down on the Island. We have the "Taj Mahal on the (Houston) Ship Channel" aka "The boondoggle to get a bond issue passed for more container ports" to offer as a terminal. Tucker in Texas Bill C wrote: Just read that Carnival has canceled the scheduled cruises for 2009 in Europe on the Freedom. I wonder if they'll be more to follow? Bill just did a check on kayak.com for airfare and airfare to Rome is $1200 pp from Philadelphia. I think this must have had quite a bit to do with the decision. Bill Last year, Med cruising was appealing to US travelers because the dollar sucked and cruises were priced in dollars. This year, the dollar still sucks, cruises are still priced in dollars and oil is priced in dollars. The only problem is the first drives the other two. And US cruise lines don't seem to be attractive to European clients. Disney was spectacularly successful last year with Europeans, but that's mostly because they're Disney. |
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Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled
Dillon Pyron wrote:
Bill C wrote: just did a check on kayak.com for airfare and airfare to Rome is $1200 pp from Philadelphia. I think this must have had quite a bit to do with the decision. Bill Last year, Med cruising was appealing to US travelers because the dollar sucked and cruises were priced in dollars. This year, the dollar still sucks, cruises are still priced in dollars and oil is priced in dollars. The only problem is the first drives the other two. I don't understand your logic. I think it's the cost of airfare to Europe (due mainly to the price of oil), as the other Bill stated. Bill |
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Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled
"Bill" wrote in message ... Dillon Pyron wrote: Bill C wrote: just did a check on kayak.com for airfare and airfare to Rome is $1200 pp from Philadelphia. I think this must have had quite a bit to do with the decision. Bill Last year, Med cruising was appealing to US travelers because the dollar sucked and cruises were priced in dollars. This year, the dollar still sucks, cruises are still priced in dollars and oil is priced in dollars. The only problem is the first drives the other two. I don't understand your logic. I think it's the cost of airfare to Europe (due mainly to the price of oil), as the other Bill stated. Bill Or it may be something more simple. Perhaps the Carnival clientele is not that interested in Europe. Maybe Carnival misjudged the interest. A few years ago Carnival seemed all excited about getting access to Bermuda... but they seemed to have abandoned Bermuda without as much as a whimper. I don't see Celebrity, Princess, Cunard, Costa, Regent, Silversea or HAL pulling ships back from Europe. We just got one way air from NYC to London through Cunard for $500. That doesn't seem too bad. --Tom |
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Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled
Tom K wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message ... Dillon Pyron wrote: Bill C wrote: just did a check on kayak.com for airfare and airfare to Rome is $1200 pp from Philadelphia. I think this must have had quite a bit to do with the decision. Bill Last year, Med cruising was appealing to US travelers because the dollar sucked and cruises were priced in dollars. This year, the dollar still sucks, cruises are still priced in dollars and oil is priced in dollars. The only problem is the first drives the other two. I don't understand your logic. I think it's the cost of airfare to Europe (due mainly to the price of oil), as the other Bill stated. Bill Or it may be something more simple. Perhaps the Carnival clientele is not that interested in Europe. Maybe Carnival misjudged the interest. A few years ago Carnival seemed all excited about getting access to Bermuda... but they seemed to have abandoned Bermuda without as much as a whimper. I don't see Celebrity, Princess, Cunard, Costa, Regent, Silversea or HAL pulling ships back from Europe. We just got one way air from NYC to London through Cunard for $500. That doesn't seem too bad. --Tom You may have something there. Carnivores are not sophisticated enough to appreciate what Europe has to offer. Bill -- Visit my Caribbean Princess website: www.cruisingthecaribbeanprincess.com |
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Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled
[Default] Thus spake Bill :
Dillon Pyron wrote: Bill C wrote: just did a check on kayak.com for airfare and airfare to Rome is $1200 pp from Philadelphia. I think this must have had quite a bit to do with the decision. Bill Last year, Med cruising was appealing to US travelers because the dollar sucked and cruises were priced in dollars. This year, the dollar still sucks, cruises are still priced in dollars and oil is priced in dollars. The only problem is the first drives the other two. I don't understand your logic. I think it's the cost of airfare to Europe (due mainly to the price of oil), as the other Bill stated. Bill The cruise lines have to pay thier crews in euros, as well as their taxes and fees. And the cost of fuel is just going to do nothing but go up. $9 a day? Sure, soon to be $12, then $15, then $18. Where does it end? Have you looked at cruise fares in the Med for this year vs 2007? The airlines tried a fare hike over the weekend that didn't stick. Then American put out another surcharge, that appears to be staying. |
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